réalisées au film

La seule mention de cette expression trouvée dans un site Web concerne la fabrication d'un modèle réduit d'avion: "L'entoilage est réalisé au film thermorétractable."

Il nous faudrait plus de contexte pour savoir si c'est bien d'une telle opération qu'il s'agit, parce que le lien avec de la tôlerie n'a rien d'évident.

Maybe 'film' could have the sense of 'foil' here, but more context is needed indeed.

Perhaps like in "aluminium foil".

However, what we would need to clarify is what these "pièces" are. In which industry? (e.g. automotive, etc.)

It could also be about heat transfer film or screen printing film.

To which of my 'options' you think "sleeve" would be parallel?

I see.

However, instead of covering, the operation "réaliser" might rather be about some painting (see my suggestion above about heat transfer film or screen printing film).

Priyank, when posting a series of questions, it's best to give the explanatory overall cobntext each time, instead of saying "Again the same robotic specification." — it may be the 'same' to you, but other people may not have been following your series of questions, and unless you specifically give ua a URL to refer to, it's not easy to find your previous questions.

"pièces réalisées au film" is such bad French, on top of being nonsensical, that this expression must have been translated into French from yet another language. I suggest you try to trace that earlier version, Priyank.

I'm afraid this is nonsense.

Please , how nonsense ? any Explication ?

The explanation should come from you, for your suggested 'translation'.

Mohamed, Please substantiate your answer. What is your source, or examples, or reasoning?

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Yes maxi,Il s'agit ici d'un simple terme , et la seule source tous simplement c'est le dictionnaire

Quel dictionnaire ?

Any dictionary, yes any one .

Could you possibly explain how your 'any dictionary' translation is relevant to robotic grippers in the automotive industry?

charabia en anglais et à l'évidence français pas compris du tout... :(

Nonsense in EN.

For a start, 'effectuate' is not even a real word (in any dictionary) — or if it is, its use is extremely rare.

And also, the inclusion of the definite article in EN demonstrates that the FR text has not been understood correctly.

Mohamed [as moderator] Terms is for professional translators and your answer and substantiation must be comensurate. "any dictionary" as answer is unhelpful. Please state a resource or reasoning for your English term. Since this is a technical translation one might assume that your resource or background and reasoning are within the specialization.

A word-for-word translation, and not translation of a technical term in a field. Analysis as per above.

[moderator] The same thing written about answers also applies to comments to answers. If something is considered incorrect, instead of writing "incorrect", "nonsense" or "wrong", please state why. This will also help the asker who is considering these answers. The explanation can be brief, but it should be one.

Tony, your explanation makes sense, however I fail to understand what is actually meant by "réalisées".

"au film" surely means "au moyen d'un film", as you are saying, but I am not convinced that "réalisées" can possibly mean "protégées".

My sentiments exactly, Laurent.

The only way I can figure it is that these parts have been produced (= réalisées) elsewhere in the factory (perhaps), and have also been filmed; this seems to me like telescoping of a text that is perfectly understandable to the people in the field, but incomprehensible to the rest of us mere mortals!

Then the appropriate preposition would be "sous film" rather than "au film".

But, like you say, they must have their own in-house logic and jargon.

Well, it would be nice to think they had some logic, anyway... ;-)

I suppose it is even just possible that 'le film' is actually one specific production area (presumably where all sorts of different parts have film applied) — in that case, the 'wrong' preposition might make more sense...

I have found this French example which might clarify the context:

"Lorsque les éléments ont été découpés, pliés, soudés et décorés, nous apportons une attention toute particulière au montage et au conditionnement :

* Travail par kit pour vous faciliter la mise sur chaîne.

* Emballage sous film rétractable par machine automatique.

* Maitrise de la logistique client.

* Organisation de type Kanban

Atilac s'engage a vos cotés de la conception CAO tôlerie jusqu'à la finition dans notre chaîne de peinture industrielle."

http://www.wwwlaser-tube.fr/service­.html

There is either a plastic film for coating inside bits of the car, OR a film used for the sheet metal stamping:

Novacel develops protective film for sheet metal: News from French ...Jun 24, 2009 ... Novacel, which specialises in industrial surface protection, particularly for uncoated metal, has unveiled the 4226REN protective film for ...

www.manufacturingtalk.com/news/fen/­fen158.html -

This Novacel makes both, apparently...and on the French site, they say: film protecteur....

C'est plausible. Alors, dans l'hypothèse de Tony, "film-wrapped" serait le mot approprié, et dans celle de Jane, on pourrait dire "film-covered", non? Ou est-ce que "filmed" est correct et couvre les deux possibilités?

My issue with filmed parts is that it sounds like sections of some reality which have been filmed.

Which is why I think "made with" is better, frankly.

Coated with film.

In context, Jane, I don't think that's an issue; in industries like retailing, packaging, etc., we use 'filmed' all the time, and no-one misunderstands it. Of course, the ambiguity might arise were the context less clear-cut.

In other words, the gripper will not screw up the coating.....it won't pierce it or mar it....:)

Film-coated parts.....

When you say "made with the film"..in English, it can mean that "comes with the film on it"..That does not mean "made out of film"...OK, I'm gone...:)