http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/MegaBBS/forum-view.asp?forumid=11 TC Discussion Forums Copyright ANVICA Software Development 2002-2009. All rights reserved. TC RSS Generator 7 Nov 2009 22:58 GMT http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/images/SteamingCup40.gif http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/MegaBBS/category-view.asp?showall=true /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188883.htm#188883 Harry Bornemann: Not "gleichgeschaltet"? When 2 major media had obvious foreknowledge of the collapse of WTC 7? One of them said in TV "has collapsed or is going to collapse" and the other one said "has collapsed" although you could see through the window behind the speaker that WTC 7 ... 7 Nov 2009 20:10 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188880.htm#188880 John Bunch: I won't speak to the engineering stuff, because I don't know enough about that, but to state that the U.S. major media is "gleichgeschaltet", as you put it, is really an amazing statement. CNN, the New York Times, and all the major media were always highly independent and critical of president Bush ... 7 Nov 2009 19:27 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188878.htm#188878 Harry Bornemann: John, I would not call it a "scientific method" to believe only in the statements of one or more major news sources - I call this rather a blind believe - and imagine where it would have led you in the Third Reich, where the major news sources were also "gleichgeschaltet". A ... 7 Nov 2009 18:49 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188877.htm#188877 John Bunch: But I think that the difference between you and me, with respect to this, is that I could be convinced actually, that 911 is a so-called "inside job". I do not totally shut off that possibility. But would you, Harry, consider that your own theory might be total nonsense, or are you "wedded" to it ? ... 7 Nov 2009 18:21 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188876.htm#188876 Harry Bornemann: [QUOTE]Originally written by John Bunch on November 7, 2009 8:56 PM the "reverse scientific method": 1. Form a conclusion that you want to believe in 2. Reject any evidence that doesn't conform with that theory 3. Collect any evidence - no matter how flimsy - that supports the ... 7 Nov 2009 18:06 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188874.htm#188874 John Bunch: Somehow it always comes back to your "theory" about 9/11, right ? As someone once referred to it, the so-called "911-truthers" use the "reverse scientific method": 1. Form a conclusion that you want to believe in 2. Reject any evidence that doesn't conform with that theory 3. Collect any evidence - ... 7 Nov 2009 17:56 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188868.htm#188868 Harry Bornemann: Yes, that's it - I hope the "tea parties" concerning 9/11, centered around ae911truth.org , will lead to a new independent investigation. 7 Nov 2009 17:01 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188863.htm#188863 John Bunch: We have a grassroots movement in the U.S., represented by the "tea parties": protests against the government. 7 Nov 2009 16:38 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188851.htm#188851 Harry Bornemann: ut when a system of checks and balances becomes too corrupt to work, only a grassroots movement can help. We have seen this in some communist countries, and I hope we will also see it in some capitalist ones. 7 Nov 2009 15:11 GMT /cafe/MegaBBS/forumthread14774msg188842.htm#188842 John Bunch: Whenever the discussion turns to greed, I always like to play this video, of an interview with Nobel Prize winning economist Milton Friedman (and also one of the heros of the 20th century, in my view). The notion that greed is all bad and only exists in the private sector (as if government and the ... 7 Nov 2009 14:12 GMT