Who would fardels bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary life, But that the dread of something after death, The undiscovered country, from whose bourn No traveller returns, puzzles the will, And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of? Thus conscience does make cowards of us all, And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought, And enterprises of great pith and moment With this regard their currents turn awry And lose the name of action. – Shakespeare [Hamlet, in Hamlet, Act III Scene i]
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Matthias H.
Member  Basa indung: JermanEmbaran: 45Nu gabung: 20 Oktober 2009 Lokasi: Jerman (removed) |
What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
After posting a feedback in the Hall, I was blackmailed to following day by the CEO of this agency suggesting that I should remove the feedback by 10 am the next Saturday in order to avoid trouble.
This was clearly blackmailing.
I am sure that such agencies will not go far. They are apparently only interested in their public reputation but do not know that it is more important to be truly professional.
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Diembar: 20 Nopember 2009 20:55 GMT | Embaran #189912—keur dibales ka #189892 +0-0 |
Harry Bornemann
Expert       Basa indung: JermanEmbaran: 1373Nu gabung: 31 Desember 2002 Lokasi: Meksiko (removed) |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
My suggestion:
1.) Double-check your evidence for the things you state in your feedback, in case he will take you to court for defamation.
2.) If your case is solid enough, add a comment describing how he threatened you.
3.) If you want to be on the safe side for 20-30 EUR, ask www.frag-einen-anwalt.de
Maybe their lawyer will suggest to file a report (Anzeige erstatten), which would not cost you anything.
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Diembar: 20 Nopember 2009 21:55 GMT | Embaran #189915—keur dibales ka #189912 +0-0 |
Matthias H.
Member  Basa indung: JermanEmbaran: 45Nu gabung: 20 Oktober 2009 Lokasi: Jerman (removed) |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Thank you, Harry.
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Diembar: 21 Nopember 2009 15:13 GMT | Embaran #189950—keur dibales ka #189915 +0-0 |
Laurent J Krauland
Basa indung: Jerman, Prancis Nu gabung: 09 Agustus 2007 Lokasi: Perancis |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Just a detail, after I checked out their HFS record and their website: this is not a translation agency, but a "translation marketplace" - which is quite a different concept with different (legal and other) consequences. And I see they ask for full payment in advance, so how can they justify their nonpayment as translators also have a possibility to correct their work?
[Diedit ku Laurent J Krauland basa keur 21 Nopember 2009 15:22]
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Diembar: 21 Nopember 2009 16:04 GMT | Embaran #189956—keur dibales ka #189950 +0-0 |
Matthias H.
Member  Basa indung: JermanEmbaran: 45Nu gabung: 20 Oktober 2009 Lokasi: Jerman (removed) |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Originally written by Laurent J Krauland on November 21, 2009 3:13 PM
Just a detail, after I checked out their HFS record and their website: this is not a translation agency, but a "translation marketplace" - which is quite a different concept with different (legal and other) consequences. And I see they ask for full payment in advance, so how can they justify their nonpayment as translators also have a possibility to correct their work?
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I see some difference to the real concept of an online marketplace such as oDesk. On oDesk, you would really trade your services directly to a client; moreover, client and vendor would know each other - similar to eBay.
This company is acting more as an agency. I did not find the definition "marketplace" on the website, they just call themselve "translation service".
Still the "marketplace" would be no excuse to refuse to issue PODs or at least some form of contract.
However, please also view their Terms of Service.
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Diembar: 12 Desember 2009 11:06 GMT | Embaran #191270—keur dibales ka #189892 +0-0 |
Lily Cao
Member Basa indung: Cina, MandarinEmbaran: 21Nu gabung: 06 Oktober 2009 Lokasi: Cina |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Awful! Why didn't TC check the (uploaded or scanned) operating license of the outsourcers before they posted jobs?
[Diedit ku Lily Cao basa keur 12 Desember 2009 11:11]
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Diembar: 12 Desember 2009 11:17 GMT | Embaran #191271—keur dibales ka #191270 +0-0 |
J. K.
Basa indung: Polandia Nu gabung: 18 Februari 2003 Lokasi: Polandia (removed) |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Originally written by Lily Cao on December 12, 2009 5:06 PM
Why didn't TC check the (uploaded or scanned) operating license of the outsourcers before they posted jobs?
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Because of what the TC Home Page says (you can't miss it):
Originally written by Jacek K. on December 11, 2009 8:01 PM
TC, on the other hand, is merely, quote
Directory of Translators, Interpreters and Translation Agencies
So it's not a job service or matchmaker. It's yellow pages, if anyone remembers that term from real life. The rest is up to the adults browsing them.
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Diembar: 12 Desember 2009 16:29 GMT | Embaran #191283—keur dibales ka #191271 +0-0 |
Matthias H.
Member  Basa indung: JermanEmbaran: 45Nu gabung: 20 Oktober 2009 Lokasi: Jerman (removed) |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Originally written by Lily Cao on December 12, 2009 5:06 PM
Why didn't TC check the (uploaded or scanned) operating license of the outsourcers before they posted jobs?
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The company in question is a registered company in Germany. It is not the issue if they are registered or not. It is the business conduct. It does not have anything to do with TC administration.
Originally written by Jacek K. on December 12, 2009 11:17 AM
Because of what the TC Home Page says (you can't miss it):
Originally written by Jacek K. on December 11, 2009 8:01 PM
TC, on the other hand, is merely, quote
Directory of Translators, Interpreters and Translation Agencies
So it's not a job service or matchmaker. It's yellow pages, if anyone remembers that term from real life. The rest is up to the adults browsing them.
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Diembar: 12 Desember 2009 16:41 GMT | Embaran #191284—keur dibales ka #189892 +0-0 |
Maxi Schwarz-Bastami
Basa indung: Inggris, Jerman Nu gabung: 26 September 2003 Lokasi: Kanada |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Matthias, generally when entities threaten translators in this manner, the translator posts the fact that he has been threatened. That way all of us will know that this is an agency (or portal or whatever) to stay away from. If nobody wants to work for such characters, what then? I find threats despicable, but above all, unprofessional conduct.
As has been suggested, check what you have posted, whether it is factual and accurate.
Maxi
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Diembar: 12 Desember 2009 17:28 GMT | Embaran #191290—keur dibales ka #191284 +0-0 |
Matthias H.
Member  Basa indung: JermanEmbaran: 45Nu gabung: 20 Oktober 2009 Lokasi: Jerman (removed) |
RE: What to do when being blackmailed by an agency?
Originally written by Maxi Schwarz-Bastami on December 12, 2009 4:41 PM
Matthias, generally when entities threaten translators in this manner, the translator posts the fact that he has been threatened. That way all of us will know that this is an agency (or portal or whatever) to stay away from. If nobody wants to work for such characters, what then? I find threats despicable, but above all, unprofessional conduct.
As has been suggested, check what you have posted, whether it is factual and accurate.
Maxi
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I had already checked the report. It sounds quite shocking but it is true.
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