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RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 3:16 PM
Originally written by David Kallans on January 5, 2009 10:11 PM
Originally written by Yaotl Altan
That's all, Jacek. Your straight answer exposes you as a zionist.
Jacek seldom gives "straight" answers; you have to read them carefully and with a sensitivity to irony. I don't think he is a zionist, or if he is (a closet) one, he is a pretty mild one.
Guys,
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too. Come on now!
Ann-Christine
He wrote it.
May be he was playing with demagoguery while a people is erased. Nice humour! Superb
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RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though???
Elite Veteran Родные языки: Arabic, Swedish Сообщений: 922 На форумах с: September 23, 2004 Местонахождение: France
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though???
Jacek
Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
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RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:42 PM
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though???
Jacek
Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
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RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Becky Barath on January 5, 2009 11:37 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:42 PM
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though???
Jacek
Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
Ann-Christine
Count me in
Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila...
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RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Harry Bornemann on January 6, 2009 1:30 AM
Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila...
Elite Veteran Родной язык: German Сообщений: 848 На форумах с: December 31, 2002 Местонахождение: Mexico
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Nikita Kobrin on January 6, 2009 1:18 AM
Originally written by Harry Bornemann on January 6, 2009 1:30 AM Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila...
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RE: A Palestinian Point of View
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:48 PM
But Ouadoud, please don't forget the Christians. They are as much Palestinians as the Muslims and suffering at least as much from the occupation. I just got this forwarded by a friend. And I had seen it on al-Jazeerah the same day it took place. I wished I was there too. It was beautiful, because they were just Palestinians, united for a fair cause, not Muslims or Christians.
Church of Nativity priest: 2,000 years after Christ Palestinians crucified everyday
Chere Ann-Christine,
You know very well that I agree with you 100% not 99. Everyone heard Al-Ab Atallah talking in the name of all Palestinian churches and imploring the Pope and all the churches in the wrld to condemn Israel genocide and war crimes on Aljazeera. You have surely noted that his words are repeatedly broadcast by Aljazeera. (no real reaction BTW).
But I was tackling the issue on a wider horizon. I was condemning a culture, a mentality that is taught to children and instilled as a poison in People's brains. But I also know as Chani pointed out that many people have enough knowledge and culture to find out by themselves the truth away from mainstream media.
I was talking exactly about this, that Jennifer Loewenstein expresses better than me, and that I quote from the article you posted:
"Strip away the clichés and the vacuous newspeak blaring out across the servile media and its pathetic corps of voluntary state servants in the Western world and what you will find is the naked desire for hegemony; for power over the weak and dominion over the world’s wealth. Worse yet you will find that the selfishness, the hatred and indifference, the racism and bigotry, the egotism and hedonism that we try so hard to cover up with our sophisticated jargon, our refined academic theories and models actually help to guide our basest and ugliest desires. The callousness with which we in indulge in them all are endemic to our very culture; thriving here like flies on a corpse. "
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RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Harry Bornemann on January 6, 2009 12:30 AM
Originally written by Becky Barath on January 5, 2009 11:37 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:42 PM
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though???
Jacek
Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
Count me in
Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila...
I agree with you, Harry, that yielding a stupidity with another stupidity is completely stupid. The makers of such acts are only nourishing the hatred on each sides. It doesn't serve any cause and it's only doing harm.
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RE: A Palestinian Point of View
Originally written by Abdelouadoud El Omrani on January 6, 2009 9:11 AM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:48 PM
But Ouadoud, please don't forget the Christians. They are as much Palestinians as the Muslims and suffering at least as much from the occupation. I just got this forwarded by a friend. And I had seen it on al-Jazeerah the same day it took place. I wished I was there too. It was beautiful, because they were just Palestinians, united for a fair cause, not Muslims or Christians.
Church of Nativity priest: 2,000 years after Christ Palestinians crucified everyday
Chere Ann-Christine,
You know very well that I agree with you 100% not 99. Everyone heard Al-Ab Atallah talking in the name of all Palestinian churches and imploring the Pope and all the churches in the wrld to condemn Israel genocide and war crimes on Aljazeera. You have surely noted that his words are repeatedly broadcast by Aljazeera. (no real reaction BTW).
But I was tackling the issue on a wider horizon. I was condemning a culture, a mentality that is taught to children and instilled as a poison in People's brains. But I also know as Chani pointed out that many people have enough knowledge and culture to find out by themselves the truth away from mainstream media.
I was talking exactly about this, that Jennifer Loewenstein expresses better than me, and that I quote from the article you posted:
"Strip away the clichés and the vacuous newspeak blaring out across the servile media and its pathetic corps of voluntary state servants in the Western world and what you will find is the naked desire for hegemony; for power over the weak and dominion over the world’s wealth. Worse yet you will find that the selfishness, the hatred and indifference, the racism and bigotry, the egotism and hedonism that we try so hard to cover up with our sophisticated jargon, our refined academic theories and models actually help to guide our basest and ugliest desires. The callousness with which we in indulge in them all are endemic to our very culture; thriving here like flies on a corpse. "
Salaam ya Okhti, Salaam Chani
Na'am ya Akhi. Of course I know, you have said it so many times here and in other threads. Like you must have read me saying it many times as well. My culture and heritage are Muslims. My mother tongue is Arabic. Add to that my very personal point of view, that I'm a Muslim at heart, and I'm proud of being one.
And today, like always in Palestine, we're Palestinians, united to shout out loud our anger over what is happening to our sisters, brothers and children in Gaza. The unity of the Palestinians is the key to many problems, like our national poet, who passed away in August last year, Mahmoud Darwich, always used to say. And we should enhance that unity and work hard to obtain it, in order to achieve our dream of a free and democratic Palestine. Say Inshaa Allah.
Ann-Christine
[Отредактировано Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz, January 6, 2009 3:49 AM]
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