Originally written by Harry Bornemann on October 25, 2009 3:27 PM
Originally written by Nanna Mercer on October 25, 2009 2:59 PM
can suffering be compared?
Yes, it can:
Well, I don't know, Harry. Suffering is, I think, a state where comparison on a scale from one to ten just isn't possible. There are too many variables. What I consider suffering may not even be felt as pain in your mind and vice versa.
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RE: Bridging The Religious Divide (3)
Originally written by Nanna Mercer on October 25, 2009 6:03 PM
Suffering is, I think, a state where comparison on a scale from one to ten just isn't possible. There are too many variables. What I consider suffering may not even be felt as pain in your mind and vice versa.
It is complicated, indeed. There are even some crackpots who enjoy military service, no matter how low they are paid and how much they are chevied. Also I don't understand why a single room is considered as a punishment in prison while you would have to pay a lot extra to get one in a hotel or hospital; and if you are a masochist in Saudi Arabia, you would probably try to find out what exactly you would have to do to get whipped.
Maybe this is one of the reasons why education by punishment works so much poorer than education by reward.
[Edited by Harry Bornemann on October 25, 2009 11:32 AM]
On Sunday, November 8, atheists will launch a coordinated prayer attack against God.
Huh!
Atheists don't believe in God and they certainly don't believe in the power of prayer. So, in what way do they suppose that they efforts will have any effects?
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RE: Bridging The Religious Divide (3)
Originally written by Nanna Mercer on October 28, 2009 9:11 PM
Atheists don't believe in God and they certainly don't believe in the power of prayer. So, in what way do they suppose that they efforts will have any effects?
Their victims (the believing readers of their announcement) may be superstitious, and this superstitiousness may be backed as usually by empirical events:
"If any prayers go unanswered on November 8, this coordinated attack could be the reason why."
Now imagine you would happen to pray on November 8, but God would not answer - wouldn't you like to blame this on those DDoS atheists?
But it is only since Sept. 11, 2001, that God has proven to be alive and well beyond all question -- at least as far as the global public debate is concerned. With jihadists attacking America, an increasingly radicalized Middle East, and a born-again Christian in the White House for eight years, you’ll have a hard time finding anyone who disagrees. Even The Economist’s editor in chief recently co-authored a book called God Is Back. While many still question the relevance of God in our private lives, there’s a different debate on the global stage today: Is God a force for good in the world?
Karen Armstrong is the author of numerous books on religion, including A History of God, Islam: A Short History, and, most recently, The Case for God.
It stands up for the oppressed and offers spiritual succour to billions say the Church's supporters. But what about the Church's teachings on condoms, gay sex and women priests, ask the detractors.
Speaking for the motion, Archbishop John Onaiyekan and Anne Widdecombe MP. Speaking against the motion, Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry.
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