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November 8, 2008 3:01 AM
Žinutė #160931—į #160670
Shiong-Fong Lew
Gimtoji kalba English
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RE: Economy - Take a break

Originally written by John Bunch on November 6, 2008 10:01 PM

However, let's just say that financial crises are not American by nature. Japan had a highly consensus-oriented (to put it mildly) culture in 1990, and the economy was the opposite of quarterly-profit driven (I remember in 1993 a businessman in Germany telling me that the Japanese managers would plan "250 years into the future" (!). Their markets were tightly regulated, and their bubble burst. Ditto the Asian financial meltdown of 1997, etc.

There are U.S. companies like SAS that are very "European" in their overall mentality (35-hour workweek, day care on site, etc.), and there are European companies that are more "American".

Through "internationally" coordinated action, the yen appreciated from 360 to 80 per dollar in the 80s. Do you expect international funds not to flow into Japan to help inflate the bubble and make it a more memorable bang?

As if that was not enough, the Americans then started complaining that Japanese workers were putting in too many hours and therefore had no time to spend their money which would increase imports. Incredibly, the Japanese government did increase the number of public holidays to appease the then number 1 market and sole security guarantor.

If you compare the Japanese public holidays for 2009 with that of London and New York, you will find that Tokyo has 17 days of public holidays versus 9 for New York and 8 for London. For patriotic types of holidays, New York has 3 (Washington's Birthday, Memorial, Independence) while Tokyo has 4 (National Foundation, Showa, Constitution Memorial, Emperor's Birthday). In addition, can the US beat public holidays in Tokyo for Greenery Day, Marine Day, Health and Sports Day, Children's Day, Culture Day, and not to mention the traditional Coming of Age Day?


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John Bunch
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RE: Economy - Take a break
I don't really understand your point. What do holidays have to do with Japan's bubble in 1990 ?

BTW, David, there is a difference between a profit, and a profit margin. They are not the same thing. Also, gross profit is not the same things as net profit. 


[Redagavo John Bunch November 8, 2008 8:27 PM]

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Jacek K.
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RE: Economy

SHANGHAI (AFP) — Spotting an opening in the global fight for talent, China's ambitious financial institutions are planning recruiting trips to London and Wall Street on the wounded financial titans' home turf.

Sovereign fund China Investment Corporation has begun a global search, multi-billion dollar Chinese-French fund Fortune SGAM plans interviews on Wall Street and Shanghai's government is headed to London and New York next month with job offers in hand.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gQZZNGoiTxqAkAjWJEnWJwAISZsg

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Jacek K.
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RE: Economy

The Crisis & What to Do About It
By George Soros

The salient feature of the current financial crisis is that it was not caused by some external shock like OPEC raising the price of oil or a particular country or financial institution defaulting. The crisis was generated by the financial system itself.

In my book The New Paradigm for Financial Markets, I argue that the current crisis differs from the various financial crises that preceded it. I base that assertion on the hypothesis that the explosion of the US housing bubble acted as the detonator for a much larger "super-bubble" that has been developing since the 1980s. The underlying trend in the super-bubble has been the ever-increasing use of credit and leverage. Creditwhether extended to consumers or speculators or bankshas been growing at a much faster rate than the GDP ever since the end of World War II. But the rate of growth accelerated and took on the characteristics of a bubble when it was reinforced by a misconception that became dominant in 1980 when Ronald Reagan became president and Margaret Thatcher was prime minister in the United Kingdom.

The misconception is derived from the prevailing theory of financial markets, which, as mentioned earlier, holds that financial markets tend toward equilibrium and that deviations are random and can be attributed to external causes. This theory has been used to justify the belief that the pursuit of self-interest should be given free rein and markets should be deregulated. I call that belief market fundamentalism and claim that it employs false logic. Just because regulations and all other forms of governmental interventions have proven to be faulty, it does not follow that markets are perfect. http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22113


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Žinutė #161153—į #161020
Shiong-Fong Lew
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RE: Economy - Take a break

Originally written by John Bunch on November 9, 2008 9:21 AM
I don't really understand your point. What do holidays have to do with Japan's bubble in 1990 ?

Try eating Washington apples with the skins intact. It was used to illustrate that the bubble had some American input (the US was not totally blame-free) and the holidays were just a follow-up pressure from US.

But talking about the relation of holidays and bubbles, President Roosevelt did declare a 1-week bank holiday (to prevent bank-runs) on his first day in office!


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John Bunch
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RE: Economy - Take a break
Hi Jacek, I get Soros's point. My point is, because government action (setting central interest rates, "backing" sub-prime mortgages, etc.) is always intertwined with what the free market does, it really is hard to say who is at fault. Some say that this crisis is endemic of capitalism, and the Marxists (and I can't disprove them !) say that this is endemic of capitalism. Some free marketers blame socialism and government action (setting the interest rates too low for too long, Fannie Mae, etc.). I do think that government did allow more risk into the system by allowing people to think that the sub-prime securities are "backed" by the government, and the private sector created the crisis by purposely making very complex securities that only their PhDs in mathematics could understand. There is no doubt enough blame to go around....
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Žinutė #161323—į #156628
Jacek K.
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RE: Economy
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on September 25, 2008 4:54 PM in Post #156628

Fellow Investor,

Since the Conventions ending, I'm starting to get extremely nervous.

Why? Because the result of the 2008 Presidential Election is now 100% predictable.

You see, whether McCain or Obama ends up in the White House come January, one thing is clear: The Democrats will retain control of both houses of Congress and the Bush tax cuts that we investors have enjoyed for so long will be GONE FOR GOOD!

The increase in capital gains taxes will create a stock selling frenzy for investors to grab profits before taxes jump from 15% to 35%!

DOWNLOAD YOUR FREE COPY NOW

(But... what's in it for me??????)

Now that, thanks to that piece of advice, everyone is sitting safely on their cash, here comes the next word of wisdom:

John H. Cochrane: Is Now the Time to Buy Stocks?

Professor's bottom line:

If you're less leveraged, less affected by recessions, and have a longer horizon than the average, it makes sense to buy. If you're more leveraged, more affected by recession or have a shorter horizon, it might be the time to sell, even though you might be cashing out at the bottom. If you're about the same as everyone else, do nothing and relax. If you're wrong, at least you will have excellent company.

If you are none of the above, just go back to work, stupid!

Jacek


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November 12, 2008 5:22 AM
Žinutė #161325—į #161323
Nanna Mercer
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RE: Economy
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 12, 2008 11:11 AM

John H. Cochrane: Is Now the Time to Buy Stocks?

Professor's bottom line:

If ... If ...might ...might 

If you are none of the above, just go back to work, stupid!

Either that, or attend the Subprime Econ. 101 lectures here: Post #156700

 

Nanna


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November 12, 2008 8:44 PM
Žinutė #161422—į #161325
John Bunch
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RE: Economy
In Forbes magazine this month, Vanguard founder John Bogle calculates the total amount of money that the "experts managing our assets" cost us is about $ 620 billion per year, and this number recurs every year !!

Why do we pay these people to "manage" our assets ? (Vanguard is a "no load" fund which invests without these "financial intermediaries"). 

Bogle calls them the "money shufflers and middlemen". They don't really add value, either. The money goes to:

- Legal and accounting services
- Financial advisers
- Bank trust departments

Bogle calculates that these "croupiers" as he calls them, will cost "us" $ 4 trillion over the next 10 years. "Now think of the cumulative costs relative to the $ 9.5 trillion value of the U.S. stock market and the $ 30 trillion value of our bond market". 

"Our obsession with these flawed markers of success (wealth), has, in turn, led to far too many young talent flooding into a field that inevitably subtracts value from society"

Wow. 


[Redagavo John Bunch November 12, 2008 8:46 PM]

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November 19, 2008 8:29 AM
Žinutė #162290—į #161422
Jacek K.
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Įstojo February 18, 2003
Šalis: Poland
 
RE: Economy
 
 
'If you seek economic growth, social justice and human dignity, the free-market system is the way to go.'
 
 
* * * 
 
Every Economist Agrees On Our Fatal Flaw--Yet No Politician Will Mention It.

...policymakers have to recognize that, while Bretton Woods II is not the product of an international agreement, it is not a "free market" system that relies on floating currencies, either. Rather, it is sustained by specific national policies. The United States has acquiesced in large trade deficits--and their effect on the U.S. workforce--in exchange for foreign funding of our budget deficits. And Asia has accepted a lower standard of living in exchange for export-led growth and a lower risk of currency crises. http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=16872fed-798c-476b-a6c4-303923cd6388
 
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SPIEGEL: You distinguish between the financial economy and the real economy. But isn't there a common cause behind the crisis -- namely, the fact that managers were too intent on maximizing short-term profits?

Wenning: As I see it, it's too simplistic to blame the current crisis on the supposed greed of executives. Look at the range of groups that invested in risky products: It starts with church organizations and ends with hedge funds. I believe that the pursuit of profit is an innate human trait. In fact, a little bit of "healthy" greed might also be useful and natural. It goads us and forces us to advance. http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,591282,00.html



[Redagavo Jacek K. November 19, 2008 9:00 AM]

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