Posted: May 15, 2005 10:15 AM | Post #58083—in reply to #58077 |
Jeff Allen
 Expert       Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 1682 Joined: December 23, 2004 Location: France | SMS language can lead to degraded communication Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on December 10, 2004 10:50 AM
The figures from the Mobile Data Association predict that the number of text messages sent during 2004 will hit 25 billion, up from 20.5 billion last year and 16.8bn in 2002. ... Faced with the challenge of squeezing their messages into a couple of sentences, text fanatics have developed a range of abbreviations and shortcuts. "2b/-2b=?", for example, is a shortened version of the classic Shakespeare line "To be or not to be, that is the question". ... The networks are determined to come up with new ways of encouraging customers to use text messaging, such as games, chat and flirting, as well as more advanced forms of the technology such as picture messaging, in order to increase the revenue from each subscriber. | Originally written by Jeff Allen on May 15, 2005 3:08 PM There were also 2 presentations on SMS language + a demonstration of a French <--> French SMS machine translation system at: http://tesniere.univ-fcomte.fr/nouvelles/programme.htm (see section with presentations on 6 May 2005; they are in the section after the one with my keynote talk presentation)
| With regard to Jacek's post higher above about the abbreviated forms of SMS text messages, during the question and answer session of the 2 conference presentations about SMS language mentioned directly above, I made the following statements: 1. SMS language to me does not seem to be a form of controlled language because there are many dictionaries about SMS language vocabulary and even that is not followed closely. People do not walk around with a big SMS dictionary in their pocket to look up the word forms to use while writing SMS's on their phones. 2. SMS language is a quite variable language with different spelled forms, although there are many known standard forms. 3. SMS language is an abbreviated form of natural language which follows at least two axes in its use. On one hand, it is a "cool, in-thing" way of expressing oneself, especially with young kids. They all want to show that they know this new language form. Yet, on the other hand, the limit of 160 characters per message creates a financial constraint for sending messages. And who would want to pay the price of a second message for having 1-2 letters too many in their first message. My office colleagues and I write lot of SMS messages to each other for technical info when we are in contexts without email access and cannot talk by phone (such as they are giving a training course). Yet, due to ongoing "cost reduction requests" by employers, employees try to squeeze the content of a much longer full-sentence message into a single SMS message with many abbreviated forms. It would be interesting to find a study (MA or PhD thesis) that analyzes such highly packed content messages into 1 or 2 SMS messages, and at what point the messages become non-undertandable to the recipients because of the attempt to squeeze all of the information into a single 160-character message. This could show that when SMS language is claimed to be a controlled language (some do claim this), then in some cases it can be a form of controlled language which runs the risk of degrading the understandability of the message rather than always improving the readability for all readers. Jeff
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Posted: December 4, 2007 11:19 AM | Post #134203—in reply to #58083 |
Jacek K. TC Master
 Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | RE: SMS language can lead to degraded communication Emoticons During Wartime No new attacks reported today.
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Posted: December 4, 2007 11:27 AM | Post #134204—in reply to #58083 |
Laurent Chiacchierini TC Master
 Expert      Mother tongue: FrenchPosts: 5575 Joined: December 31, 2003 Location: France | RE: SMS language can lead to degraded communication
Originally written by Jeff Allen on May 15, 2005 4:15 PM
...the limit of 160 characters per message creates a financial constraint for sending messages. And who would want to pay the price of a second message for having 1-2 letters too many in their first message. ...
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This is a natural resurgence of telegraphic style (from the time when telegrams were charged per word).
Same causes, same effects...
Laurent
P.S. Also because of the awkward input entry on a non-alphabetic telephone keyboard.
[Edited by Laurent Chiacchierini on December 4, 2007 11:29 AM]
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Posted: December 4, 2007 4:23 PM | Post #134250—in reply to #134204 |
Jeff Allen
 Expert       Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 1682 Joined: December 23, 2004 Location: France | RE: SMS language can lead to degraded communication Originally written by Laurent Chiacchierini on December 4, 2007 5:27 PM
This is a natural resurgence of telegraphic style (from the time when telegrams were charged per word).
Same causes, same effects...
P.S. Also because of the awkward input entry on a non-alphabetic telephone keyboard.
| The Blackberry is now heavily influencing text messaging since it is email by telephone. Some of my more recent messages received include an email from a Blackberry user who puts a disclaimer at the end of the message indicating "sorry for the typos, I'm using a Blackberry". And also a few weeks ago a phone text message from someone who forgot to sign the message and say who it was. That didn't do me any good at all, since that person's mobile phone number wasn't in my directory. About 10 years ago, I gave courses on technical and business writing and indicated that email should be written in a way that puts all the information on half the size of aa desktop monitor screen (and they were only 14-15 inches at that time). Now, the Blackberry and similar devices are making it worse because you have to write your email message in such a telegraphic style for some to even consult it on their Blackberry screen. Amazing how the increase in technology can lead to degradation of quality of communication.
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Posted: May 13, 2008 5:25 AM | Post #145819—in reply to #58083 |
Jacek K. TC Master
 Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | RE: SMS language can lead to degraded communication Or can it? The revenge of e.e. cummings*
Monday, May 12, 2008 Item: A new study warns that writing text messages could hurt a writer's command of standardized English. We had to LOL when we read how txt-msg lingo is replacing stndrd english in student academic pprs. 1 casualty of da trend is uz of capital letter to start a sentence. kids feel free to lowercase everything. pnktu8n is also dissed. tchaz try to help but its often 2 l8. new paragraphs r not uzed in txting either. kids prolly think all dis iz ok cuz even Richard Sterling, emeritus xecutiv director of the ntl riting prjct, gives it the nod. natl riting prjct is sposd 2 improve riting instruxn in americas schoolz. "i think in the future, capitalization will disappear," he sed in the nytimes. 4 lazy students dis is 2G2BT! a big natl study by the College Board and Pew Project on the Internet and American Life finds teenagers riting more b/c of txting but in a hybrid language with conventions of its own: call it Textlish. they don't consider it frml english but 64 percent admit it seeps into their writing at school. we get da need for shorthand when thumbs fly on tiny keypads. but we thot technology wd enhance communication, not blur every boundary b/w frml language and slang. and dont even get us started on emoticons! well, tempora quid faciunt. dis not lingo but latin: times change. early america's founders wud uppercase almost every noun; maybe Sterling really is a visionary. Still, on the 25th anniversary of "A Nation at Risk," the seminal report on America's educational challenges, who wudda thot the big threat to riting wd b the cellfone? ---- * One Cummings scholar believes that on the occasions Cummings signed his name in all-lowercase, the poet may have intended it as a gesture of humility, and not as an indication that it was the preferred orthography for others to use for his name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Cummings Jacek
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Posted: May 13, 2008 8:39 AM | Post #145830—in reply to #41756 |
Heinrich Pesch
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In Finnland we have SMS service for the public since 1995. We never talk about SMS but call it "tekstiviesti" = textmessage. In colloquial speak its "tekstari". Regards Heinrich
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Posted: May 13, 2008 5:22 PM | Post #145878—in reply to #145819 |
Jeff Allen
 Expert       Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 1682 Joined: December 23, 2004 Location: France | RE: SMS language can lead to degraded communication | Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on May 13, 2008 11:25 AM Or can it? Item: A new study warns that writing text messages could hurt a writer's command of standardized English. We had to LOL when we read how txt-msg lingo is replacing stndrd english in student academic pprs. 1 casualty of da trend is uz of capital letter to start a sentence. kids feel free to lowercase everything. pnktu8n is also dissed. tchaz try to help but its often 2 l8. | It will probably lead to a new generation with those who become teachers claiming that they are biliterate in standard English and Textlish, and requesting a higher salary for such bilingualism. Reminds me of ebonics in the US in the mid 1990s. Jeff
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Posted: May 14, 2008 2:24 AM | Post #145889—in reply to #41756 |
Samuel Hunt TC Master
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I always say 'to send an SMS'. It really hurts my ears to hear people say "I'll text you", and "SMSing" is such a phonetic catastrophe that it can't really be used either.
But "I'll send you an SMS"? Works for me. It's a complete sentence, does not use a noun as a verb at any point and uses a standard construction.
In Czech, I prefer the instrumental ozvu se SMSkou or dám Ti vědět SMSkou, "I'll get in touch via SMS" to ad hoc verbal constructions like SMSovat.
[Edited by Samuel Hunt on May 14, 2008 2:45 AM]
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Posted: May 15, 2008 10:52 AM | Post #146108—in reply to #145889 |
Alex Eames
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I think use of the word "text" is becoming more popular simply because it is easier to say than SMS. Try it. Say out loud..
"I'll SMS you" 5 syllables "I'll text you" 3 syllables
But being an old git, I would probably say "I'll send you an SMS" or "I'll send you a text message" 
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Posted: December 4, 2008 4:30 AM | Post #163646—in reply to #145878 |
Jacek K. TC Master
 Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | RE: SMS language can lead to degraded communication A doctor volunteering in war-torn Congo performed a complex amputation to save a boy’s life by following instructions sent by text message from a colleague in London: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5276983.ece
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