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Do you believe in God?

Do you believe in God? What will happen to you at death? Do you pray? Do you think religious believers are deluded?

 

Many people would hesitate to raise these questions at dinner. Antonio Monda, on the other hand, has been posing them for several years to cultural eminences like Saul Bellow, Toni Morrison, Salman Rushdie, Daniel Libeskind, Derek Walcott, Spike Lee, Jonathan Franzen, David Lynch and Martin Scorsese. …

 

Mr. Bellow was one of the five interviewees who answered yes to what Mr. Monda calls the “fundamental question”: whether one believes God exists. Six answered no. Seven placed themselves somewhere in between.

 

These are all people smart enough to know that defining God is not a simple matter. The in-betweens were especially apt to speak of mystery. Some, like Mr. Franzen, used language leaning in the God direction:

 

“God’s not like some chief executive sitting at a control panel, calling all the shots,” he said. “At the same time, I think there’s a reality beneath what we can see with our eyes and experience with our senses. There’s ultimately something mysterious and un-materialistic about the world. Something large and awe-inspiring and eternal and unknowable.”

 

Spike Lee spoke of “a superior being” and a “superior presence”— “but I don’t know if I can call it God.”

 

Others, like Mr. Rushdie and Ms. Paley, were very definite that the “mystery” they affirmed was in no way transcendent or supernatural. When Mr. Englander, whose prize-winning short stories reflect rebellion against an Orthodox Jewish upbringing, was asked whether he believed in God, he answered, “I’d be inclined to say no if I didn’t fear God’s wrath.” …

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/10/us/10beliefs.html

 

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November 16, 2009 12:41 PM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Originally written by Jacek K. on November 16, 2009 11:54 AM

Speaking of shows, live animals are harmlessly used in stage productions of Aida, for example, and in many movies that have the disclaimer "No Animals Were Harmed in the Making of this Film." No deadly miracles there. Why not learning from them?

You did not answer my question.

As for disclaimers... Well the "disclaimer" the LGGD gets about the kind of Christmas entertainments goes like this: "Prove the animals suffer!" Not to mention the fact that the "No Animals Were Harmed..." is usually the human point of view.

Good tidings we bring...


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November 16, 2009 1:32 PM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on November 16, 2009 6:41 PM

Originally written by Jacek K. on November 16, 2009 11:54 AM

Speaking of shows, live animals are harmlessly used in stage productions of Aida, for example, and in many movies that have the disclaimer "No Animals Were Harmed in the Making of this Film." No deadly miracles there. Why not learn from them?

You did not answer my question.

As for disclaimers... Well the "disclaimer" the LGGD gets about the kind of Christmas entertainments goes like this: "Prove the animals suffer!" Not to mention the fact that the "No Animals Were Harmed..." is usually the human point of view.

Good tidings we bring...

Not all questions that can be asked should be asked and not all questions that are asked require an answer.

Nanna


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November 16, 2009 2:25 PM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on November 16, 2009 5:40 PM

What kind of god might like this and is it the God you believe in?

One of may favorite ones: The Feathered Serpent?

 Quetzalcoatl as depicted in the Codex Magliabechiano

He was known as the inventor of books and the calendar, the giver of maize (corn) to mankind, and sometimes as a symbol of death and resurrection. Quetzalcoatl was also the patron of the priests and the title of the Aztec high priest.

The worship of Quetzalcoatl sometimes included animal sacrifices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl.


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November 16, 2009 4:34 PM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Speaking of the Aztec gods, I seem to understand Mictlantecuhtli the Lord of Underworld better. But my question still goes unanswered.


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November 16, 2009 4:45 PM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on November 16, 2009 10:34 PM

But my question still goes unanswered.

Why do you have to know whether I believe in Quetzalcoatl?


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November 16, 2009 4:49 PM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Animals usually do not act in sick acts like that for Christmas: a small gig with a donkey won't hurt anyone, he might even like it, to be a fifteen minutes entertainer.   


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November 16, 2009 4:57 PM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Originally written by Jacek K. on November 16, 2009 4:45 PM

Why do you have to know whether I believe in Quetzalcoatl?

Sophistry is something I`m acquainted with, too. Never liked Socrates, BTW.


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November 17, 2009 1:48 AM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on November 16, 2009 10:57 PM

Never liked Socrates, BTW.

Oh no, that smart alec pretending not to know anything? What a nerve! But they fixed him well at the end, didn't they?


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November 17, 2009 11:41 AM
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RE: Silent Night, Holy Night!

Originally written by Jacek K. on November 17, 2009 1:48 AM

But they fixed him well at the end, didn't they?

Seems he fixed himself, if you choose to believe Plato.

Only this is getting kinda Nostradamish,




no?


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