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November 3, 2009 8:01 PM
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Maxi Schwarz-Bastami
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RE: America, America...

Also, the European "love affair" with Obama seems to be ending, as this article shows:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/10/27/obamas_european_honeymoon_is_over

The title seems to indicate that.  The article itself states the following:

- President Obama has the same vision as President Kennedy did
- in discussing issues, some of Europe's opinions differ from those of America
- Obama does not use grandiose rhetoric
- Obama presents a "pragmatic, unsentimental outlook" (which I suspect is much better liked than grandiose rhetoric in many parts of the world).

Despite the title, I saw nothing that would support a honeymoon having started or ended.

Maxi



[Edited by Maxi Schwarz-Bastami on November 3, 2009 8:03 PM]

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November 4, 2009 3:45 AM
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RE: America, America...

Originally written by John Bunch on November 3, 2009 4:35 PM

we will see how the Democrat does in the upcoming New Jersey election for governor.

"Christie, a former U.S. attorney, rode a wave of voter outrage over taxes and the recession to a decisive victory." Right, a Democrat-induced recession and wartime taxes... I am glad people are thinking



[Edited by Jacek K. on November 4, 2009 3:54 AM]

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November 4, 2009 3:59 AM
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RE: America, America...

I think President Obama is the best you can get, so if he does not seem perfect to some people, this is the way it is, it will not get any better, at least for now. 


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November 4, 2009 4:04 AM
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RE: America, America...

Originally written by Jacek K. on November 4, 2009 9:45 AM

 Right, a Democrat-induced recession and wartime taxes... I am glad people are thinking

With all that heavy duty thinking it's no wonder we're in trouble - here, there and everywhere. When bidding on jobs some people resort to really heavy duty thinking...


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November 4, 2009 10:12 AM
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RE: America, America...
Jacek, Christie won becuase New Jersey has the highest taxes in the nation. There are many states (particularly in the West and South) where the taxes are far less heavy, and the business environment is far better. The Democrats in places like California and Michigan and New Jersey seem to think that they can just tax and spend, and they then wonder why the businesses are closing shop and moving, or they are being voted out of office. And they can't blame Bush either (which, by the way, is getting very, very old. Obama has been president since January 20, 2009).

BTW, what ever happened to the new Left ? I am talking about the Bill Clintons and Tony Blairs. They had fresh ideas and out of the box thinking. What we now have is stale old orthodox liberalism from the 1970s (Obama's positions are almost identical to those of Ted Kennedy's in the late 1970s, on almost every issue). The liberal position on everything seems to be: tax it and command-control the economy, centrally, from Washington, because we know what is better than you do.

[Edited by John Bunch on November 4, 2009 10:15 AM]

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RE: America, America...
This is funny. The new TV show "V", about aliens who take over the earth in order to "better" human society, is being celebrated by Obama-haters as a more or less overt attack on "Obamamania", as this article explains:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-tc-tvcolumn-v-1102-1103nov03,0,7062976.story
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November 4, 2009 10:24 AM
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RE: America, America...

Originally written by John Bunch on November 4, 2009 4:12 PM

New Jersey has the highest taxes in the nation

They didn't bother me.

...and they then wonder why the businesses are closing shop and moving

Do you know whether any of those taxes go to finance the trillion/year offence expenditures? Maybe that's why businesses are closing shop and moving? Maybe not all of them manage to win DOD contracts?



[Edited by Jacek K. on November 4, 2009 1:47 PM]

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November 4, 2009 10:34 AM
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RE: America, America...

...In other words, you cannot build the world on sick foundations and hope that it will be healthy.

Come to think about it,

Here's one silver lining on an otherwise disappointing night: When taken together, the results from New Jersey and New York City can be read as a repudiation of the rich man’s politics practiced by Jon Corzine and Michael Bloomberg--both of whom used personal fortunes to launch themselves into the political arena, and both of whom were trying to buy an election for the third time in the past decade. http://www.tnr.com/blog/silver-lining-new-jersey-and-new-york-city

Good!


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November 4, 2009 11:56 AM
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RE: America, America...
I interpret this as a repudiation of "Obamanomics", and dissatistfaction with Obama so far:

- Expanding "social services" and welfare
- Paid for with debt that future generations of Americans will have to pay
- High taxes
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November 4, 2009 12:21 PM
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RE: America, America...

You can only build the world on intuition, in my opinion. As far Michael Bloomberg, he is a great man, regardless of his 17 billion. With him New York is much better. You would have to see the garbage all around, and the crime under all other mayors, including poser Gulliani. 


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