I thought we were discussing the translation industry – all of it, or did I get lost somewhere? Just because a thread takes a turn around the bend now and then doesn’t mean the main theme is lost.

David

Edited to add: Don't be afraid to look at your faults. – Yoruba proverb

I thought the above appropriate to the topic of how we deal with others both personally, and within the translation industry. Sometimes we are quick to find the faults in others but when our own are pointed out, well...

David, I was addressing the concern that the OP had an agenda, and suggesting we don't need to follow it.  If the discussion veers of its own accord, why not?

Maxi

Where "OP" means...?

Original poster?

Yes, original poster or original post.  Sorry.

Maxi

Thank you, DN.

...and DM.

I don't understand it either. Especially from a new member. Agree with you. I still don't get.

I like provocations (that’s why I responded to this thread), but since it seems that we have reached a dead end (no one will talk about bad translations and there seems to be no high school behavior outside TCT), time for a digression re:

Originally written by Maxi Schwarz-Bastami on November 22, 2008 2:34 PM   Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 22, 2008 7:10 AM Originally written by Maxi Schwarz-Bastami on November 21, 2008 11:44 PM Internet forums are a new High School Good news for you who like sociological studies, Maxi: All those hours their teenagers spend socializing on the Internet are not a bad thing http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/us/20internet.html?_r=1&em Actually I detest sociological studies, but that's an interesting article….

An exhibition in Warsaw (http://www.csw.art.pl/new/2007program/1112cale_en.html) has reminded me of the famous Margaret Thatcher’s quote:

There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. (http://briandeer.com/social/thatcher-society.htm)

If true, this could make our tribal world so much happier! Once independent in their thinking from various clans and pressure groups, people could revaluate all sorts of assumptions and stop voting like sheep for warmongers, for example. Etc. etc.

There is something in the description of that exhibition that tells me that, although populated by individuals, the world is not exactly individualist. They talk about “strikes by miners,” for example. Oh, so there is a social, not individual, category like that! “The comic aspects of class hierarchy and absurdity of human behavior arising from traditional British limitations. The social costs of de-industrialization and globalization ... The mood of social catastrophe…” Gee, so apart from individuals, there are also some classes, British traditional limitations, de-industrialization which is not quite individual, and globalization which may go beyond family borders. The mood of social catastrophe…

And now the high school category here…

An exhibition in Warsaw

That is heartening to see.   Did you go to it, Jacek?  The faces on those three children strike me, but I don't know how.

Maxi

It just opened, Maxi. And tonight I am off to

Chamber music concert
PALESTRINA, DE VICTORIA, MARENZIO, DA VENOSA

POLISH CHAMBER CHOIR

(http://www.filharmonia.pl/koncerty_wlasne.en.html)