Yes, Jacek, I do believe we can.

David

Unfortunately the act of criticism is used, too often, in a negative context and is far from practical. And, when criticism comes from that of expertise, knowledge or experience it is usually not criticism at all (in the sense of putting down the work of another), but a desire to help the other succeed. TCT terms is a great example of this ...   Can we say, then, that it is TCT (which I hardly ever visit) that is the primary implied backdrop to this poll?

I'm a bit lost.  You are referruing to the discussion on the various forms of criticism.  Then you go from criticism to the idea that TCTerms is the primary backdrop of the poll - but the poll is not about criticism.  It is about childish behaviour. 

If I can take the theme of criticism, and relate it to TCTerms - Yes, the terms section do give us a constant opportunity for growth as our knowledge and approach to terminology problem-solving are put to the test.  It is the terms themselves that are under scrutiny, of course.  We are able to see where our own strengths and weaknesses.

I'm looking at the quote again: The poster has said that in TCTerms input is not "criticism" in a negative sense, but a sincere effort to help.

but a desire to help the other succeed. TCT terms is a great example of this ...

I don't see the "high school behaviour" of the poll reflected in "sincere effort to help".

Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 24, 2008 5:05 PM So a poll about "other translators work" and about the "translation industry" is in reality a poll about terminology research and related squabbling?

So it seems to me.

If people want to complain about TCTerms - fine - but please do so clearly and in the designated forum and not here in the guise of something else that is of general interest to the whole community. The fighting, the squabbling, the criticism and the general level of ineptitude doesn't interest me.  

Nanna

I am taking the poll to be asking about the translation industry, not TCTerms.  There is no such behaviour in the translation industry that I have experienced.  I have also just come back from moderating TCTerms, my two sections.  By and large I see mature professional individuals helping each other most of the time, and definitely today.

This poll does not mention TCTerms so I'd like to keep it on the subject that was presented - the translation industry.  Answer: nope - not to my knowledge.

Maxi 

Originally written by Maxi Schwarz-Bastami on November 24, 2008 5:28 PM I am taking the poll to be asking about the translation industry, not TCTerms.  ...

I appreciate these clarifications. I was increasingly feeling like in a high school where everyone knows what the hidden agenda is and I am the only one kept in the dark...

Answer: nope - not to my knowledge.

Indeed, neither any of the three critical threads I linked to above brings any high school associations to my mind...

Jacek

I do not understand the poll or the reasoning behind it. I did not vote, for how can I when I don't understand the reason for the poll? I am still in the dark... The subsequent posts by members who almost never visit the fora provided a strong clue that there was a hidden agenda...glad I was wrong

Nanna

Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 24, 2008 11:05 AM So a poll about "other translators work" and about the "translation industry" is in reality a poll about terminology research and related squabbling?

Well, actually, only the originator of the poll would know the true intent. We can only guess. I don’t see how, though, that some of the isolated high school behavior in the TC Terms section cannot be associated with the theme of the poll. For the most part TC Terms, as well as the other forums are professional. We see isolated cases of high school behavior in all forums and not only here at TC. The more restricted the forums (those allowed to participate), the less of the high school type behavior. At least that is what I have seen.

TC is more open (anyone can become a member), and, therefore, not in the least restrictive. This allows for very open discussions and at times behavior, that although not understood, can be interesting and enlightening. I don't think we can take isolated incidences of high school type behavior within TC, regardless of the area, to say it is part of an industry theme. Just my opinion as I have been fortunate to deal with very top notch professionals in the translation industry.

David

That's always good to know!

Jacek

Well, whatever the pollster's intent, I have decided to consider it as worded: "Is the translation industry the new high school"

If the OP has certain ideas in mind, it does not mean that I have to share them.  No, the translation industry is not like high school (such as it is described here).

I've just moderated my pairs and I see mature professionals helping each other. 

The poll is also insulting to high schools and to young men and women of high school age who may well have a thing or two to teach us.

In any case, since we are invited to discuss the translation industry, why don't we do just that?

Maxi