Posted: November 20, 2008 4:02 PM | Post #162478—in reply to #162474 |
John Bunch
 Expert      Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 1810 Joined: February 1, 2008 Location: United States | RE: Muscular American Feminism?
Well, first of all, I don't consider the German diet all that healthy (Schnitzel, which is probably mostly transfats), Currywurst. What is in Currywurst, by the way ?? I used to eat "Currywurst mit Pommes Frites rot-weiß" while in Germany, and I don't consider that to be that healthy (particularly if you factor in all that second-hand smoke you get in a typical German restaurant !).
Plus, let's just say that America has an incredibly diverse diet and you can eat every kind of food in the world in most moderate to big cities.
Re hoping that Obama "will change the way Americans eat", I really hope that was a joke. I don't think that is the president's job, personally, to tell me how to eat (just like I would not presume to know how Obama "should eat").
Re BMI and waist measurement: I kind of disagree. I have spoken to Dr. Ken Cooper, the "founder of aerobic exercise" and he says that being cardiovascularly fit is more important than waist measurement, and he has studied this for 30 years, scientifically. I am about 15 pounds overweight, but I guarantee you I could run 10 miles right now with no problem. I know chain smokers who are rail thin, but I will put my meat-eating, beer-drinking and long-distance jogging body up against theirs in terms of overall mortality any day. Smoking is the real killer, not meat.
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Posted: November 20, 2008 4:43 PM | Post #162485—in reply to #162478 |
Nichole Barlow
 Member  Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 43 Joined: May 12, 2007 Location: United States | For one, we could stop subsidizing the corn industry. Maybe there would be less high fructose corn syrup in everything if the government was not footing the bill.
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Posted: November 20, 2008 4:46 PM | Post #162486—in reply to #162478 |
Jacek K. TC Master
 Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by John Bunch on November 20, 2008 10:02 PM I guarantee you I could run 10 miles right now with no problem.
| My only hope is that you are 40 years younger than I am, John...
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Posted: November 20, 2008 4:49 PM | Post #162487—in reply to #154551 |
Nanna Mercer
 Expert     Mother tongues: English, DanishPosts: 9027 Joined: February 12, 2005 Location: Denmark | RE: United States Presidential Election, 2008 Me thinks the rice cake story has gone far enough in this presidential thread, so how 'bout continuing the munching and the crunching over here Post #162483 in the RICE CAKES thread? Nanna
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Posted: November 20, 2008 7:32 PM | Post #162505—in reply to #162487 |
John Bunch
 Expert      Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 1810 Joined: February 1, 2008 Location: United States | RE: United States Presidential Election, 2008 Jacek, are you 85 ? 
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Posted: November 21, 2008 10:33 AM | Post #162581—in reply to #162474 |
Bertha S. Deffenbaugh
 Expert      Mother tongue: SpanishPosts: 4572 Joined: May 9, 2003 Location: United States | Adelle Davis denounced this 50 years ago! Originally written by Derek Thornton on November 21, 2008 12:41 AM
... one of the main drawbacks in the industrial production process of such cereals is the accumulation of acrylamide - a carcinogenic chemical classified as a probable human carcinogen in 1994. This was discovered in 1950 and although the accumulation of this chemical has been reduced, so far manufacturers have failed to find a way of totally eliminating this substance from appearing in the production process. | I went to my bookshelves and reached for my favorite book on nutrition, “Let’s Get Well”, written over 50 years ago by the great Adelle Davis. Bertha  _____________________________________ Page 336, “Let’s Get Well” by Adelle Davis "The multibillion dollar refined-food industry has gained such power that it keeps people in ignorance and literally controls the health of our nation. Its relentless radio, television, newspaper and magazine advertising reaches like the life-crushing tentacles of an octopus into every home. Half the space in our beautiful markets is given to health-destroying products which fill shoppers’ baskets to a frightening degree. Hundreds of magazines and newspapers depending on advertising income from the foodless food industry have carried articles and syndicated columns_ clever mixtures of truth, misinformation and propaganda _ particularly designed to prevent the slightest interest in nutrition from interfering with enormous profits." "The refined-food industry, by giving untold millions, also controls a vast amount of nutritional research. Much of it is valuable indeed, but information that might harm sales goes unreported and problems whose solution could decrease profits remain uninvestigated." [Adelle Davis graduated from the University of California at Berkeley, took postgraduate work at Columbia University and the University of California at Los Angeles. She received her Master of Science degree in biochemistry from the University of Southern California Medical School. Later on she worked as a consulting nutritionist and planned individual diets for more than 20,000 individuals suffering from almost every known disease. She later gave up consulting work to devote her time to her family,writing and lecturing]
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Posted: November 21, 2008 10:53 AM | Post #162584—in reply to #162478 |
Bertha S. Deffenbaugh
 Expert      Mother tongue: SpanishPosts: 4572 Joined: May 9, 2003 Location: United States | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by John Bunch on November 21, 2008 1:02 AM
.. and I don't consider that to be that healthy (particularly if you factor in all that second-hand smoke you get in a typical German restaurant !). | Do Germans smoke inside a restaurant? Gee... America has an incredibly diverse diet and you can eat every kind of food in the world in most moderate to big cities. |
True. However, I would appreciate if you could give me the name of just one restaurant where I can eat *good* Chinese food. I have been to at least 5 different Chinese food restaurants until I decided to throw in the towel. The amount of fat and tendon in the chicken is close to scandalous. In Uruguay there are very good Chinese restaurants and if you happen to find the smallest bit of tendon, they will apologize and give you your money back. What is it with US Chinese restaurants? Re hoping that Obama "will change the way Americans eat", I really hope that was a joke. | I wish Obama would mess with the way Americans eat and also with the refined-food industry, the pharmaceutical industry and the medical "industry". Someone has to put these crooks in their place. Bertha 
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Posted: November 21, 2008 11:27 AM | Post #162590—in reply to #154551 |
Nichole Barlow
 Member  Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 43 Joined: May 12, 2007 Location: United States | RE: United States Presidential Election, 2008 You can get good food in the US. You have to go to a health food store or local farm, but you can.
Many people are going to starve to death and freeze to death this winter. The unemployment rate is really high, and people cannot afford to feed themselves and heat their house. I just heard on the radio yesterday that the food bank is very low.
I feel guilty eating organic when someone out there has nothing to eat at all except for what they find in a garbage can. Also in this economy I feel like I should building an emergency fund rather than spending all my money at Whole Paycheck.
I am all for getting rid of growth hormones and antibiotics in meat. I am all for getting rid of msg in our food. However, would this raise the price of our food and cause more people to go hungry?
I would like to see the free lunch program expanded to include an after school snack. Children should not be punished because their parents are unable to provide them with the basics.
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Posted: November 21, 2008 11:29 AM | Post #162591—in reply to #162584 |
Nanna Mercer
 Expert     Mother tongues: English, DanishPosts: 9027 Joined: February 12, 2005 Location: Denmark | Dear All, Off topic posts often have the same natural flow found in real life conversation which is one of the reasons why I generally do not mind or even bother commenting on off topic posts. However... Did anyone read Post #162487 ? If not, please do. Nanna
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Posted: November 21, 2008 11:36 AM | Post #162595—in reply to #162591 |
Jacek K. TC Master
 Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | Nanna, Since the last on-topic post here was Post #162334, would it be possible to simply move the entire pages that followed to the destination you have specified? Jacek (guilty as charged)
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