Posted: November 19, 2008 12:46 PM | Post #162348—in reply to #154551 |
Jacek K. TC Master
Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | RE: Muscular American Feminism? What a relief to finally hear a story I can relate to in such a detail, Derek! With the exception of "I fight continuously to put as much as I can of my [food] onto her [plate]"... Oh, never! (And again, today, more of that stupid omnipresent advice that never works, yes, against genetics: How I Lost 30 Pounds in 3 Months While Never Going Hungry How I Lost 30 Pounds In 3 Months Without Being Hungry Part2)Jacek (desperately and hopelessly munching rice cakes...)
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Posted: November 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Post #162350—in reply to #162348 |
John Bunch
Expert      Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 1807 Joined: February 1, 2008 Location: United States | RE: Muscular American Feminism? I was talking to a man who I considered very fit, with very low body fat percentage (apparently, and from what he told me). And he suddenly made a comment to me: "If there is a famine, I would be the first to die". It suddenly occurred to me that my extra 15 pounds, rather than being a liability, from an evolutionary and genetic point of view, is probably an advantage. That extra fat store no doubt has evolutionary purposes. At least, I think so. That is also I think why the final 10 pounds is so hard to take off.
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Posted: November 19, 2008 1:04 PM | Post #162351—in reply to #162350 |
David Kallans
Expert       Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 1752 Joined: April 13, 2007 Location: United States | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by John Bunch That extra fat store no doubt has evolutionary purposes. At least, I think so. That is also I think why the final 10 pounds is so hard to take off. |
Indeed, many evolutionary biologists believe that certain human populations have genetically adapted to store fat in anticipation of famine, among these are Polynesians, some American Indians, and some African tribes, as well as their descenants (many African-American women seem predisposed to store fat in their posterior, which many African-American men find sexually attractive, proving that evolution is quite beautiful in its own way).
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Posted: November 19, 2008 1:41 PM | Post #162352—in reply to #162325 |
Elena Rodriguez
Regular   Mother tongue: SpanishPosts: 58 Joined: February 14, 2003 Location: Spain | RE: Muscular American Feminism?
Hi Bertha
The truth is that, being a translator, I am beginning to worry about so much misunderstanding. One thing was Derek's comment about recent mothers not dedicating enough efforts to keep their looks up to standard (Pallin's?), -that is what I responded to, missing on his sense of humour- and another thing is talking about morbidly obese people. I agree obese people, when it is a disease, don't have a choice, and will surely feel unhappy therefore. Aren't we just talking about different things? Sincerely meant "enjoy your chocolates and Pilates". I enjoy cooking, eating and drinking (it is kind of the national sport here), nothing negative about it. Carpe Diem (Que disfrutes de los bombones, del ejercicio, y de todos los placeres de la vida, que son dos días....-sin segundas, es un deseo sincero-) Cheers!!
PS.: I will see about lactose free chocolate.
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Posted: November 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Post #162355—in reply to #162350 |
Jacek K. TC Master
Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by John Bunch on November 19, 2008 6:51 PM It suddenly occurred to me that my extra 15 pounds, rather than being a liability, from an evolutionary and genetic point of view, is probably an advantage. | Caveat: Excess body mass index (BMI) is a well-known predictor of morbidity and mortality, Dr Jensen says, but many now suggest that waist circumference is a more beneficial measure. http://www.imwr.com/issues/articles/2007-05_14.asp However, measurement of WC as a preferable determinant of cardiovascular and metabolic risks is increasingly gaining popularity in recent years. That WC is indeed a better index than BMI as a measure of obesity among the Chinese has been recently reported in both Chinese men, women... http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-128075132.html
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Posted: November 19, 2008 2:28 PM | Post #162357—in reply to #154551 |
Nichole Barlow
Member  Mother tongue: EnglishPosts: 43 Joined: May 12, 2007 Location: United States | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Derek,
Maybe she should have her thyroid checked? Maybe she needs more fats like coconut oil or olive oil? Maybe she needs more protein? Have you ever heard of the Traditional Foods diet? I think it is by Weston A Price. The only thing we do differently than him is that I can't have the casein in milk, and he is really into raw milk and butter. Some people actually do better with animal protein from cage-free chicken or pastured beef (like people with adrenal problems). I understand that some people are morally opposed to eating meat, but some people thrive on it.
I hope you don't mind responding to what you wrote. I can relate to what your wife is going through.
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Posted: November 19, 2008 5:37 PM | Post #162376—in reply to #162357 |
Derek Thornton TC Master
Mother tongue: English Joined: April 30, 2007 Location: Germany | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by Nichole Barlow on November 19, 2008 7:28 PM Maybe she should have her thyroid checked? Maybe she needs more fats like coconut oil or olive oil? Maybe she needs more protein? |
She almost certainly needs an iodine supplement, practically everybody in Germany does. The soil here is very low in iodine and consequently it is not possible to get the minimum daily requirement from food alone. I take a tablet every day prophylactically (levothyroxin sodium + potassium iodide) but she does not like tablets and will not listen to me. We get plenty of olive oil, some Italian, some Spanish and some Greek, we buy a bottle of each and my wife cooks with it exclusively and always has done and puts it on salads so I do not believe that is the cause. And we use iodized salt regularly. I think that it is more likely to be something to do with her stomach. The medications for that do not work and have nasty side effects. What does work is to cut down on the size of meals drastically and that does work but also has the bad side that I described.| I hope you don't mind responding to what you wrote. |
No, of course not, it is always nice to get a little sympathy! I mentioned our situation mainly to underscore that overweight, which is seldom fatal, is far easier to treat than underweight, which can be fatal. Isn't it odd that many overweight people seem to be far more contented with their lives than many underweight people? Derek
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Posted: November 19, 2008 5:44 PM | Post #162377—in reply to #162348 |
Derek Thornton TC Master
Mother tongue: English Joined: April 30, 2007 Location: Germany | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 19, 2008 5:46 PM (desperately and hopelessly munching rice cakes...) |
Ah, yes, rice cakes. I was considering using those to insulate our living room ceiling but unfortunately they are usually circular (and burn too easily) and 3 cm-thick styropor sheets turned out to be easier to handle.Derek
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Posted: November 20, 2008 1:18 AM | Post #162391—in reply to #162377 |
Jacek K. TC Master
Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by Derek Thornton on November 19, 2008 11:44 PM
3 cm-thick styropor sheets turned out to be easier to handle. | Do you think they may have less than 327 kcal/100g???
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Posted: November 20, 2008 8:03 AM | Post #162420—in reply to #162391 |
Derek Thornton TC Master
Mother tongue: English Joined: April 30, 2007 Location: Germany | RE: Muscular American Feminism? Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 20, 2008 6:18 AM Do you think they may have less than 327 kcal/100g??? |
I understand that natural rice cakes as they come off the rice cake tree have zero nutritional value (which is less than styropor) so they are often supplemented with brown sugar which brings them up to the figure you quoted. They still have no nutritional value but, when toasted, the smoke is said to be an effective mosquito repellent. Burning rate 127 mm/second at sea level. Derek
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