Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on August 17, 2008 4:30 PM Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on August 15, 2008 4:01 PM there is no such thing as rośliny odkrywkowe There is. ... растения-рудознатцы

Hi Dodo,

I see limits to how inventive we can be, save for poetry of Bolesław Leśmian, of course. In the case of the hypothetical rośliny odkrywkowe, I would venture to say that the existing connotation of the modifyer odkrywkowy is so strong in Polish (it means 'outcast') that trying to bend it to mean растения-рудознатцы sounds unrealistic to me. Could you post it as a RU>PL TCT question?

Jacek

Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on August 22, 2008 1:27 PM "fitoindikatoriai"

Ah, that's a whole different story, says Google, which provides two scholarly links with "fitowskaźniki":

http://www.larix.lublin.pl/product_info.php/cPath/105_107/products_id/14421
http://www.kbios.uni.opole.pl/biblioteka/docs/ECTS%202007%20biologia%20stacjonarna%20licencjacka.pdf

which leads us to: BIOINDYKATORY http://portalwiedzy.onet.pl/82667,haslo.html

hence: http://portalwiedzy.onet.pl/45391,,,,wskaznikowe_rosliny,haslo.html

None of these is even remotely related to odkrywkowe...

Jacek

The ores themselves, the marking ores? God knows!

(If you called those ores, not the plants, odkrywkowe, it would clearly suggest that they are mined in an opencast way.)

Jacek

Don't go around correcting typos at US national parks.  From CNN.com:

PHOENIX, Arizona (AP) -- When it comes to marking up historic signs, good grammar is a bad defense.

Jeff Deck and Benjamin Herson corrected the grammar in the first paragraph of this sign.

Two self-styled vigilantes against typos who defaced a more than 60-year-old, hand-painted sign at Grand Canyon National Park were sentenced to probation and banned from national parks for a year.

Jeff Deck and Benjamin Herson pleaded guilty August 11 for the damage done March 28 at the park's Desert View Watchtower. The sign was made by Mary Elizabeth Jane Colter, the architect who designed the rustic 1930s watchtower and other Grand Canyon-area landmarks.

Deck and Herson, both 28, toured the United States this spring, wiping out errors on government and private signs. They were interviewed by NPR and the Chicago Tribune, which called them "a pair of Kerouacs armed with Sharpies and erasers and righteous indignation."

An affidavit by National Park Service agent Christopher A. Smith said investigators learned of the vandalism from an Internet site operated by Deck on behalf of the Typo Eradication Advancement League.

Authorities said a diary written by Deck reported that while visiting the watchtower, he and Herson "discovered a hand-rendered sign inside that, I regret to report, contained a few errors."

The fiberboard sign has yellow lettering with a black background. Deck wrote that they used a marker to cover an erroneous apostrophe, put the apostrophe in its proper place with correction fluid and added a comma.

The misspelled word "emense" was not fixed, Deck wrote, because "I was reluctant to disfigure the sign any further. ... Still, I think I shall be haunted by that perversity, emense, in my train-whistle-blighted dreams tonight."

Deck and Herson pleaded guilty to conspiracy to vandalize government property.

They were sentenced to a year's probation, during which they cannot enter any national park or modify any public signs. They were also ordered to pay $3,035 to repair the watchtower sign.

The TEAL Web site now has only this message: "Statement on the signage of our National Parks and public lands to come."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/22/sign.vandals.ap/index.html

Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on August 23, 2008 8:26 PM ... what do translators care about? I guess it is language, but I`m not so sure... I`ve just compared two threads: this one and the one about inflation ging up and translation prices going down. The latter, started on August 20, shows 2140 viewings and 117 replies (I`m sure there are new replies flowing in right now); the former, started on August 14 - 527 viewings and 26 replies, half of those mine. This seems to be an indication, of sorts...

Yes, an indication of sorts.

But if you relate that to the number of registered TC members (77460) you get:

Care about* translator's net income: 15 (I counted them) = 0.019% of the membership.

Care about typos: 11 votes = 0.014% of the membership.

(* care enough, that is, to post at least once on the subject)

I attribute the trifling difference to a perceived topicality to the discussion of the drop in income (although that thread is already drifting wildly) whereas there have been typos since homo erectus started scribbling on the walls of his cave and the subject is hardly going to get anybody very excited now - unless perhaps somebody could get a law passed that translators would be fined 100 gold francs for every self-inflicted typo that they fail to detect. That might shake things up a bit.

Derek