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November 9, 2009 9:05 AM
Сообщение 189025 — ответ на №188733
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RE: Intercultural awareness

 

 

Who Is a Jew? Court Ruling in Britain Raises Question
LONDON The questions before the judges in Courtroom No. 1 of Britain’s Supreme Court were as ancient and as complex as Judaism itself.
Who is a Jew? And who gets to decide?
On the surface, the court was considering a straightforward challenge to the admissions policy of a Jewish high school in London. But the case, in which arguments concluded Oct. 30, has potential repercussions for thousands of other parochial schools across Britain. And in addressing issues at the heart of Jewish identity, it has exposed bitter divisions in Britain’s community of 300,000 or so Jews, pitting members of various Jewish denominations against one another. ...
By many standards, the JFS applicant, identified in court papers as “M,” is Jewish. But not in the eyes of the school, which defines Judaism under the Orthodox definition set out by Jonathan Sacks, chief rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth. Because M’s mother converted in a progressive, not an Orthodox, synagogue, the school said, she was not a Jew nor was her son. It turned down his application.
That would have been the end of it. But M’s family sued, saying that the school had discriminated against him. They lost, but the ruling was overturned by the Court of Appeal this summer.
In an explosive decision, the court concluded that basing school admissions on a classic test of Judaism whether one’s mother is Jewish was by definition discriminatory. Whether the rationale was “benign or malignant, theological or supremacist,” the court wrote, “makes it no less and no more unlawful.”
The case rested on whether the school’s test of Jewishness was based on religion, which would be legal, or on race or ethnicity, which would not. The court ruled that it was an ethnic test because it concerned the status of M’s mother rather than whether M considered himself Jewish and practiced Judaism. ...
The school appealed to the Supreme Court, which is likely to rule sometime before the end of the year. ...


[Отредактировано J. K., November 9, 2009 9:07 AM]

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November 12, 2009 9:34 AM
Сообщение 189309 — ответ на №188733
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Originally written by Jacek K. on November 4, 2009 10:42 AM 

Today, in Lautsi v. Italy, the European Court of Human Rights has held that the display of the crucifix in the State school attended by the applicant’s daughter was contrary to the applicant’s right to ensure her child’s education and teaching in conformity with her religious and philosophical convictions, within the meaning of Article 2 of Protocol No. 1. The display of the cross had also breached her freedom of conviction and religion, as protected by Article 9 of the Convention. The judgment is available here, in French only.To quote from the court’s press release: http://humanrightsinireland.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/lautsi-v-italy-religious-symbols-and-parents-rights-at-the-echr/

European Court of Human Rights on crucifix ruling


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November 12, 2009 5:50 PM
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RE: Intercultural awareness
well, they should also keep the hijab (Islamic head covering) and the niqab (full black covering) out of the schools, if they are going to remove the crosses...
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Originally written by John Bunch on November 12, 2009 11:50 PM

...if they are going to remove the crosses...

They are not.  From what I understood about the ruling, it is only when there are public protests against having those religious symbols in public schools (in European countries where, supposedly, there is a separation of church and state) that crosses should be removed.

Nevertheless, they keep spinning...

The Nov. 3 ruling by the European Court of Human Rights does not require that Poland remove the crosses that hang in most public schools. It could, however, eventually force a review of the use of religious symbols in government-run school across Europe. ...

During Independence Day celebrations on Wednesday in Warsaw, Kaczynski said that "nobody in Poland will accept the message that you can't hang crosses in schools."

"One shouldn't count on that. Perhaps elsewhere, but never in Poland," said Kaczynski. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,574893,00.html

In other words, what the Polish President says is: We don't care if someone doesn't like religious symbols in public places in a country where religion is separated from the state. There is no state religion here, but the one and only correct religious symbol is going to remain in public places no matter what some Court of Human Rights rules. Human rights? Perhaps elsewhere, but never in Poland.


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