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 Becky Barath, Nanna Mercer Last Activity January 6, 2009 12:25 PM
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November 20, 2008 6:20 PM
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RE: Is Europe anti-semitic?
We Americans never wanted the Germans to be pacifists. We wanted them in NATO. Or am I missing something ? 

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RE: Is Europe anti-semitic?
Originally written by John Bunch on November 21, 2008 12:20 AM

We Americans never wanted the Germans to be pacifists. We wanted them in NATO. Or am I missing something ? 
Maybe you are missing the after WW2 slogan "Nie wieder Krieg!", followed by the 70's Peace & Love movement, accompanied by a crazy education plan where we went through the Drittes Reich 3 times, so it made up 90% of my history lessons, with most of the rest coming from translating Caesar's De bello Gallico.

Being in the NATO means to be obliged to defend a member when he is attacked.  For the Afghanistan war, the controlled demolition of 9/11 was "sold" as such an attack from the world wide terrorism, centered in Afghanistan.  We all remember the heroic image of the Taliban as long as they fought the Russian occupiers, but as soon as they fought the US occupiers, they seemed to have suddenly turned into monsters.  I still don't understand the attack on Afghanistan, and the attack on Irak is even less understandable.

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RE: Is Europe anti-semitic?

Originally written by John Bunch on November 20, 2008 6:20 PM
We Americans never wanted the Germans to be pacifists. We wanted them in NATO. Or am I missing something ? 

The US never wanted a German army that was able to do anything on its own.  Mostly the US wanted to base its own forces on German soil and work with token German forces that would follow US policy.  The last thing the US, or any of its other WWII allies, wanted was an independent and strong German military that could actualy exert power on its own, even if it was within NATO.  The US was displeased enough when France removed its forces from NATO control.


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