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Becky Barath, Patrick Panifous |
Last Activity January 7, 2009 8:51 AM 17 replies, 621 viewings |
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| Posted: November 3, 2008 10:03 AM | Post #160263—in reply to #160223 | ||
Theo Bernards Member Mother tongue: Dutch Posts: 24 Joined: October 1, 2008 Location: France | Interesting point Jonathan, about language being a part of one's personality. Hadn't thought about it in that direction, but you have a point. I see the validity in such a realisation. Same goes for you, Maxi, that language is very much part of somebody's background, although I am not sure if interacting with animals is the same as communicating with them, but that could be a semantics issue on my behalf, not a stipulation or postulation  . I think the key here is that I feel communication works in both directions and I haven't had any experiences with animals expressing their thoughts towards me but then again, I am not a farmer. Your story of the whales is very interesting, I must say that I wasn't aware of the musical properties of these mammals. Since my move to France the documentary channels have changed language into French, which is not my strongest point, and I have missed out on many documentaries which I used to watch in Netherlands ans in Ireland. Which documentary was that? | ||
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| Posted: November 3, 2008 10:13 AM | Post #160264—in reply to #160263 | ||
Jacek Krankowski Mother tongue: Polish Joined: February 18, 2003 Location: Poland |
Apparently, there might be some examples of the latter in the Interspecies communication thread. Here, I have voted for both... | ||
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| Posted: November 3, 2008 11:29 AM | Post #160278—in reply to #160264 | ||
Nanna Mercer Expert     Mother tongues: English, Danish Posts: 7455 Joined: February 12, 2005 Location: Denmark |
Me too! Anyway, Aria (an Alsatian) communicates in various ways: she 'snaps' her upper and lower jaw very gently in my face: supposedly she's being affectionate. When I do the same to her, she repeats the movement while looking very calm and loving. Whenever I let her out in the garden, she does an interesting parameter check: she runs alongside the fence the whole way 'round. With raised hackles and a stiff 'beware' posture, she barks as loud as she can. When she has finished the round, she stops and looks at me. I reinforce this particular communication by loudly approving. Very good! She smacks her lips loudly when I get annoyed at her. Supposedly it's a way to pacify members of the tribe: calm down, Nanna! She does the smacking lip thing with her ears pulled way back when I get very wired about the mud she drags in from the by now always wet and muddy garden. To reassure her that she has managed to calm down the alpha, I step away from her and then smack my lips in return: she relaxes, and allows me to clean her huge paws without any fuss. Nanna | ||
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| Posted: November 4, 2008 7:42 AM | Post #160382—in reply to #160223 | ||
| Dodo Kaipdodo TC Master  Elite Veteran  Mother tongue: Lithuanian Posts: 814 Joined: August 8, 2007 Location: Lithuania |
The primary purpose of language in general is making simple things intricate and making intricate things inextricable. But different languages exist so that translators might land jobs. | ||
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| Posted: November 4, 2008 9:13 AM | Post #160389—in reply to #160382 | ||
| Liliana Boladz-Nekipelov Extreme Veteran Mother tongues: Polish, English Posts: 718 Online Joined: September 13, 2008 Location: United States | I basically think that languages are like music: like the ancient rhythm of the drum talking to you in different forms.
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| Posted: November 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Post #160403—in reply to #160389 | ||
| Maxi Schwarz-Bastami Expert  Mother tongues: English, German Posts: 6780 Joined: September 26, 2003 Location: Canada |
That's music to my ears. | ||
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| Posted: November 4, 2008 12:03 PM | Post #160412—in reply to #160382 | ||
Jonathan Downie Extreme Veteran Mother tongue: English Posts: 527 Joined: March 9, 2008 Location: United Kingdom |
I love the ending to that sentence. I do sometimes wonder whether God thought to Himself, after the Tower of Babel incident, "never mind, at least now they can give money to translators and interpreters." | ||
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| Posted: November 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Post #160415—in reply to #160412 | ||
| Liliana Boladz-Nekipelov Extreme Veteran Mother tongues: Polish, English Posts: 718 Online Joined: September 13, 2008 Location: United States | I think He thought it was Art. | ||
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