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Language: communication or articulation
Another fun poll to see how people approach language. Do you see its purpose as to allow us to communicate with others or to enable us to articulate our own ideas?

Fill in the blank:

The primary purpose of language is ___________________
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November 3, 2008 10:03 AM
Žinutė #160263—į #160223
Theo Bernards
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Žinutės: 67
Įstojo October 1, 2008
Šalis: France
 
RE: Language: communication or articulation
Interesting point Jonathan, about language being a part of one's personality. Hadn't thought about it in that direction, but you have a point. I see the validity in such a realisation. Same goes for you, Maxi, that language is very much part of somebody's background, although I am not sure if interacting with animals is the same as communicating with them, but that could be a semantics issue on my behalf, not a stipulation or postulation . I think the key here is that I feel communication works in both directions and I haven't had any experiences with animals expressing their thoughts towards me but then again, I am not a farmer. Your story of the whales is very interesting, I must say that I wasn't aware of the musical properties of these mammals. Since my move to France the documentary channels have changed language into French, which is not my strongest point, and I have missed out on many documentaries which I used to watch in Netherlands ans in Ireland. Which documentary was that?
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November 3, 2008 10:13 AM
Žinutė #160264—į #160263
Jacek K.
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Gimtoji kalba Polish
Įstojo February 18, 2003
Šalis: Poland
 
RE: Language: communication or articulation

Originally written by Theo Bernards on November 3, 2008 4:03 PM
I am not sure if interacting with animals is the same as communicating with them ....

Apparently, there might be some examples of the latter in the Interspecies communication thread.

Here, I have voted for both...


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November 3, 2008 11:29 AM
Žinutė #160278—į #160264
Nanna Mercer
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Įstojo February 12, 2005
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RE: Language: communication or articulation
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 3, 2008 4:13 PM

Originally written by Theo Bernards on November 3, 2008 4:03 PM
I am not sure if interacting with animals is the same as communicating with them ....

Apparently, there might be some examples of the latter in the Interspecies communication thread.

Here, I have voted for both...

Me too!

Anyway, Aria (an Alsatian) communicates in various ways: she 'snaps' her upper and lower jaw very gently in my face: supposedly she's being affectionate. When I do the same to her, she repeats the movement while looking very calm and loving. 

Whenever I let her out in the garden, she does an interesting parameter check: she runs alongside the fence the whole way 'round. With raised hackles and a stiff 'beware' posture, she barks as loud as she can. When she has finished the round, she stops and looks at me. I reinforce this particular communication by loudly approving. Very good!

She smacks her lips loudly when I get annoyed at her. Supposedly it's a way to pacify members of the tribe: calm down, Nanna!

She does the smacking lip thing with her ears pulled way back when I get very wired about the mud she drags in from the by now always wet and muddy garden. To reassure her that she has managed to calm down the alpha, I step away from her and then smack my lips in return: she relaxes, and allows me to clean her huge paws without any fuss.

Nanna 


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Paskelbta:
November 4, 2008 7:42 AM
Žinutė #160382—į #160223
Dodo Kaipdodo
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Žinutės: 1554
Įstojo August 8, 2007
Šalis: Lithuania
 
RE: Language: communication or articulation

The primary purpose of language in general is making simple things intricate and making intricate things inextricable. But different languages exist so that translators might land jobs.

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Paskelbta:
November 4, 2008 9:13 AM
Žinutė #160389—į #160382
Liliana Boladz-Nekipelov
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Įstojo September 13, 2008
Šalis: United States
 
RE: Language: communication or articulation

I basically think that languages are like music: like the ancient rhythm of the drum talking to you in different forms.

 

Liliana


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Paskelbta:
November 4, 2008 10:59 AM
Žinutė #160403—į #160389
Maxi Schwarz-Bastami
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Žinutės: 7857
Įstojo September 26, 2003
Šalis: Canada
 
RE: Language: communication or articulation

I basically think that languages are like music: like the ancient rhythm of the drum talking to you in different forms.

Liliana

That's music to my ears.  


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Paskelbta:
November 4, 2008 12:03 PM
Žinutė #160412—į #160382
Jonathan Downie
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Žinutės: 845
Įstojo March 9, 2008
Šalis: United Kingdom
 
RE: Language: communication or articulation
Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on November 4, 2008 7:42 AM


The primary purpose of language in general is making simple things intricate and making intricate things inextricable. But different languages exist so that translators might land jobs.


I love the ending to that sentence.  I do sometimes wonder whether God thought to Himself, after the Tower of Babel incident, "never mind, at least now they can give money to translators and interpreters."

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Paskelbta:
November 4, 2008 1:16 PM
Žinutė #160415—į #160412
Liliana Boladz-Nekipelov
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Įstojo September 13, 2008
Šalis: United States
 
RE: Language: communication or articulation

I think He thought it was Art. 


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