Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 5 d. 16:22 GMT | Žinutė #166183—į #166182 +0-0 |
Yaotl Altan
Elite Veteran      Gimtosios kalbos: ispanų, italųŽinutės: 686Įstojo 2005 m. rugsėjo 8 d. Šalis: Meksika (removed) |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 3:16 PM
Originally written by David Kallans on January 5, 2009 10:11 PM
| Originally written by Yaotl Altan That's all, Jacek. Your straight answer exposes you as a zionist. |
Jacek seldom gives "straight" answers; you have to read them carefully and with a sensitivity to irony. I don't think he is a zionist, or if he is (a closet) one, he is a pretty mild one. |
Guys,
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too. Come on now!
Ann-Christine
| He wrote it. May be he was playing with demagoguery while a people is erased. Nice humour! Superb 
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 5 d. 16:29 GMT | Žinutė #166185—į #166182 +0-0 |
J. K.
Gimtoji kalba lenkų Įstojo 2003 m. vasario 18 d. Šalis: Lenkija (removed) |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
| The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though??? Jacek
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 5 d. 16:42 GMT | Žinutė #166187—į #166185 +0-0 |
Ann-Christine Nassar
Elite Veteran    Gimtosios kalbos: arabų, švedųŽinutės: 10713 Įstojo 2004 m. rugsėjo 23 d. Šalis: Švedija |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
| The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though??? Jacek |
Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
Ann-Christine
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 5 d. 17:37 GMT | Žinutė #166190—į #166187 +0-0 |
Becky Barath
Expert     Gimtosios kalbos: anglų, norvegųŽinutės: 16393 Įstojo 2005 m. gruodžio 5 d. Šalis: JAV |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:42 PM
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM
If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too.
| The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though??? Jacek |
Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
Ann-Christine
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Count me in
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 5 d. 18:30 GMT | Žinutė #166197—į #166190 +0-0 |
Harry Bornemann
Expert       Gimtoji kalba vokiečiųŽinutės: 1373Įstojo 2002 m. gruodžio 31 d. Šalis: Meksika (removed) |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Becky Barath on January 5, 2009 11:37 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:42 PM
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too. | The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though???Jacek | Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
Ann-Christine
| Count me in | Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila...
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 5 d. 19:18 GMT | Žinutė #166201—į #166197 +0-0 |
Nikita Kobrin TC tikrasis narys
Gimtoji kalba rusų Įstojo 2002 m. lapkričio 29 d. Šalis: Lietuva |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Harry Bornemann on January 6, 2009 1:30 AM Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila... | Well Harry, You can find one of its interpretations HERE... NK
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 6 d. 00:02 GMT | Žinutė #166204—į #166201 +0-0 |
Harry Bornemann
Expert       Gimtoji kalba vokiečiųŽinutės: 1373Įstojo 2002 m. gruodžio 31 d. Šalis: Meksika (removed) |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Nikita Kobrin on January 6, 2009 1:18 AM
Originally written by Harry Bornemann on January 6, 2009 1:30 AM Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila... | You can find one of its interpretations HERE... | It does have style, but it does not sound like "Let's rejoice"...
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 6 d. 03:11 GMT | Žinutė #166208—į #166133 +0-0 |
Abdelouadoud El Omrani TC tikrasis narys
Expert    Gimtosios kalbos: arabų, prancūzųŽinutės: 2127Įstojo 2003 m. vasario 5 d. Šalis: Kataras |
RE: A Palestinian Point of View
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:48 PM
But Ouadoud, please don't forget the Christians. They are as much Palestinians as the Muslims and suffering at least as much from the occupation. I just got this forwarded by a friend. And I had seen it on al-Jazeerah the same day it took place. I wished I was there too. It was beautiful, because they were just Palestinians, united for a fair cause, not Muslims or Christians.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m50370&hd=&size=1&l=e
Church of Nativity priest: 2,000 years after Christ Palestinians crucified everyday
| Chere Ann-Christine, You know very well that I agree with you 100% not 99. Everyone heard Al-Ab Atallah talking in the name of all Palestinian churches and imploring the Pope and all the churches in the wrld to condemn Israel genocide and war crimes on Aljazeera. You have surely noted that his words are repeatedly broadcast by Aljazeera. (no real reaction BTW). But I was tackling the issue on a wider horizon. I was condemning a culture, a mentality that is taught to children and instilled as a poison in People's brains. But I also know as Chani pointed out that many people have enough knowledge and culture to find out by themselves the truth away from mainstream media. I was talking exactly about this, that Jennifer Loewenstein expresses better than me, and that I quote from the article you posted: "Strip away the clichés and the vacuous newspeak blaring out across the servile media and its pathetic corps of voluntary state servants in the Western world and what you will find is the naked desire for hegemony; for power over the weak and dominion over the world’s wealth. Worse yet you will find that the selfishness, the hatred and indifference, the racism and bigotry, the egotism and hedonism that we try so hard to cover up with our sophisticated jargon, our refined academic theories and models actually help to guide our basest and ugliest desires. The callousness with which we in indulge in them all are endemic to our very culture; thriving here like flies on a corpse. " Salaam ya Okhti, Salaam Chani Ouadoud
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 6 d. 03:29 GMT | Žinutė #166210—į #166197 +0-0 |
Ann-Christine Nassar
Elite Veteran    Gimtosios kalbos: arabų, švedųŽinutės: 10713 Įstojo 2004 m. rugsėjo 23 d. Šalis: Švedija |
RE: Stop weapon sales.
Originally written by Harry Bornemann on January 6, 2009 12:30 AM
Originally written by Becky Barath on January 5, 2009 11:37 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:42 PM
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on January 5, 2009 10:29 PM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 10:16 PM If Jacek is a zionist, then I am one too. | The fact that I have always liked your company, Ann-Christine, is the best proof of it. Now that the two of us have been exposed, what are we going to do, though???Jacek | Oh, Gosh! I don't know what to do with myself! We agreed on being very careful, and here I am, unveiling the truth about us, just like this. Will you please forgive me?
| Count me in | Well, I am getting angry at the continuous crimes commited by Israel, but when I heard some Neo-Nazis sing Nazi songs and similar Liedgut in East Berlin on New Year's Eve, I was very tempted to sing Hava Nagila...
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I agree with you, Harry, that yielding a stupidity with another stupidity is completely stupid. The makers of such acts are only nourishing the hatred on each sides. It doesn't serve any cause and it's only doing harm.
Ann-Christine
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Paskelbta: 2009 m. sausio 6 d. 03:42 GMT | Žinutė #166211—į #166208 +0-0 |
Ann-Christine Nassar
Elite Veteran    Gimtosios kalbos: arabų, švedųŽinutės: 10713 Įstojo 2004 m. rugsėjo 23 d. Šalis: Švedija |
RE: A Palestinian Point of View
Originally written by Abdelouadoud El Omrani on January 6, 2009 9:11 AM
Originally written by Ann-Christine Nassar-Pateffoz on January 5, 2009 4:48 PM
But Ouadoud, please don't forget the Christians. They are as much Palestinians as the Muslims and suffering at least as much from the occupation. I just got this forwarded by a friend. And I had seen it on al-Jazeerah the same day it took place. I wished I was there too. It was beautiful, because they were just Palestinians, united for a fair cause, not Muslims or Christians.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m50370&hd=&size=1&l=e
Church of Nativity priest: 2,000 years after Christ Palestinians crucified everyday
| Chere Ann-Christine, You know very well that I agree with you 100% not 99. Everyone heard Al-Ab Atallah talking in the name of all Palestinian churches and imploring the Pope and all the churches in the wrld to condemn Israel genocide and war crimes on Aljazeera. You have surely noted that his words are repeatedly broadcast by Aljazeera. (no real reaction BTW). But I was tackling the issue on a wider horizon. I was condemning a culture, a mentality that is taught to children and instilled as a poison in People's brains. But I also know as Chani pointed out that many people have enough knowledge and culture to find out by themselves the truth away from mainstream media. I was talking exactly about this, that Jennifer Loewenstein expresses better than me, and that I quote from the article you posted: "Strip away the clichés and the vacuous newspeak blaring out across the servile media and its pathetic corps of voluntary state servants in the Western world and what you will find is the naked desire for hegemony; for power over the weak and dominion over the world’s wealth. Worse yet you will find that the selfishness, the hatred and indifference, the racism and bigotry, the egotism and hedonism that we try so hard to cover up with our sophisticated jargon, our refined academic theories and models actually help to guide our basest and ugliest desires. The callousness with which we in indulge in them all are endemic to our very culture; thriving here like flies on a corpse. " Salaam ya Okhti, Salaam Chani |
Na'am ya Akhi. Of course I know, you have said it so many times here and in other threads. Like you must have read me saying it many times as well. My culture and heritage are Muslims. My mother tongue is Arabic. Add to that my very personal point of view, that I'm a Muslim at heart, and I'm proud of being one.
And today, like always in Palestine, we're Palestinians, united to shout out loud our anger over what is happening to our sisters, brothers and children in Gaza. The unity of the Palestinians is the key to many problems, like our national poet, who passed away in August last year, Mahmoud Darwich, always used to say. And we should enhance that unity and work hard to obtain it, in order to achieve our dream of a free and democratic Palestine. Say Inshaa Allah.
Ann-Christine
[Redagavo Ann-Christine Nassar 2009 m. sausio 6 d. 03:49]
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