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Language: communication or articulation
Another fun poll to see how people approach language. Do you see its purpose as to allow us to communicate with others or to enable us to articulate our own ideas?

Fill in the blank:

The primary purpose of language is ___________________
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03 Nopember 2008 10:03
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RE: Language: communication or articulation
Interesting point Jonathan, about language being a part of one's personality. Hadn't thought about it in that direction, but you have a point. I see the validity in such a realisation. Same goes for you, Maxi, that language is very much part of somebody's background, although I am not sure if interacting with animals is the same as communicating with them, but that could be a semantics issue on my behalf, not a stipulation or postulation . I think the key here is that I feel communication works in both directions and I haven't had any experiences with animals expressing their thoughts towards me but then again, I am not a farmer. Your story of the whales is very interesting, I must say that I wasn't aware of the musical properties of these mammals. Since my move to France the documentary channels have changed language into French, which is not my strongest point, and I have missed out on many documentaries which I used to watch in Netherlands ans in Ireland. Which documentary was that?
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RE: Language: communication or articulation

Originally written by Theo Bernards on November 3, 2008 4:03 PM
I am not sure if interacting with animals is the same as communicating with them ....

Apparently, there might be some examples of the latter in the Interspecies communication thread.

Here, I have voted for both...


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03 Nopember 2008 11:29
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RE: Language: communication or articulation
Originally written by Jacek Krankowski on November 3, 2008 4:13 PM

Originally written by Theo Bernards on November 3, 2008 4:03 PM
I am not sure if interacting with animals is the same as communicating with them ....

Apparently, there might be some examples of the latter in the Interspecies communication thread.

Here, I have voted for both...

Me too!

Anyway, Aria (an Alsatian) communicates in various ways: she 'snaps' her upper and lower jaw very gently in my face: supposedly she's being affectionate. When I do the same to her, she repeats the movement while looking very calm and loving. 

Whenever I let her out in the garden, she does an interesting parameter check: she runs alongside the fence the whole way 'round. With raised hackles and a stiff 'beware' posture, she barks as loud as she can. When she has finished the round, she stops and looks at me. I reinforce this particular communication by loudly approving. Very good!

She smacks her lips loudly when I get annoyed at her. Supposedly it's a way to pacify members of the tribe: calm down, Nanna!

She does the smacking lip thing with her ears pulled way back when I get very wired about the mud she drags in from the by now always wet and muddy garden. To reassure her that she has managed to calm down the alpha, I step away from her and then smack my lips in return: she relaxes, and allows me to clean her huge paws without any fuss.

Nanna 


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RE: Language: communication or articulation

The primary purpose of language in general is making simple things intricate and making intricate things inextricable. But different languages exist so that translators might land jobs.

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RE: Language: communication or articulation

I basically think that languages are like music: like the ancient rhythm of the drum talking to you in different forms.

 

Liliana


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RE: Language: communication or articulation

I basically think that languages are like music: like the ancient rhythm of the drum talking to you in different forms.

Liliana

That's music to my ears.  


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RE: Language: communication or articulation
Originally written by Dodo Kaipdodo on November 4, 2008 7:42 AM


The primary purpose of language in general is making simple things intricate and making intricate things inextricable. But different languages exist so that translators might land jobs.


I love the ending to that sentence.  I do sometimes wonder whether God thought to Himself, after the Tower of Babel incident, "never mind, at least now they can give money to translators and interpreters."

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RE: Language: communication or articulation

I think He thought it was Art. 


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