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10. února 2012 16:11 GMT
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Jacek K.
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RE: Libya

Originally written by Kim Metzger on February 10, 2012 4:48 AM

Poor Russia.

That qualifier is missing from the following Foreign Affairs account:

Russia vetoed a resolution at the UN Security Council to end the violence in Syria because it feels burned by last year's international intervention in Libya, and it harbors suspicions about the motives of the United States.


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RE: Libya

Right, Putin lost a lot of money in the Libya deal.


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RE: Libya

Russia just seems to be less altruistic than the United States whose charitable expenses in Libya were as follows:

According to the Pentagon, that was the cost to U.S. taxpayers for Muammar el-Qaddafi's head: $1.1 billion through September, the latest figure just out of the Defense Department. ...

The final totals will take some time to add up, and still do not include the State Department, CIA, and other agencies involved or other NATO and participating countries. Vice President Joe Biden said that the U.S. "spent $2 billion total and didn't lose a single life."  (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/10/for-the-us-war-against-qaddafi-cost-relatively-little-11-billion/247133/)

Compared to such a bill on the US third simultaneous front alone, Russia does seem to be poor...

But, hey, can we all be rich and famous?


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RE: Libya

And Qaddafi was such a nice guy. His people will miss him.


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RE: Libya

A few more nice guys to go:

Originally written by Jacek K. on March 21, 2011 2:39 PM

[Obama] said “innocent men and women face brutality and death at the hands of their own government.”

That’s true of the people of Yemen, our ally, which just mowed down dozens of peaceful protesters.

That’s true of the people of Bahrain, our ally, which also just mowed down dozens of peaceful protesters.

Then there’s the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, our chief Arab ally and a repressive government in its own right, which just rolled its tanks into Bahrain.

In the Ivory Coast today, another country on good terms with Washington, a dictatorial government is brutalizing its people.

http://www.progressive.org/wx031911.html

Should keep this thread busy throughout another Spring.


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RE: Libya

So you're in favor of keeping all police states in power? Or just those hostile to the West?



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RE: Libya

Originally written by Kim Metzger on February 10, 2012 5:11 PM

So you're in favor of keeping all police states in power? Or just those hostile to the West?

A dictator is a dictator and supporting them in once own backyard while crying blue murder elsewhere is called?

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Originally written by Kim Metzger on January 30, 2012 3:46 AM

Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have.  Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie. - Wikipedia


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RE: Libya

And a hypocrite criticizes only Americans and remains silent about the slaughter committed by his friends.



[Edited by Kim Metzger on 10. února 2012 17:25]

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RE: Libya

Then



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RE: Libya vs. Syria

A TNR Symposium on Syria: Why Libya Isn’t a Model

With the civilian death toll in Syria climbing ever upwards, commentators are increasingly suggesting that Washington and its European allies cobble together a military alliance to depose President Bashar Assad, using as a model the mission against the regime of Muammar Qaddafi. But such optimism overlooks the vast differences between today’s Syria and last year’s Libya. From a superior military to a larger and more entrenched base of support, the Syrian regime possesses many advantages Qaddafi lacked. Those set on intervening would do well to heed the differences. 


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