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Nanna Mercer عضو فاعل
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RE: Agency form
| Originally written by Stéphanie Denton on May 14, 2012 3:08 PM
| Originally written by Nanna Mercer on May 14, 2012 3:04 PM
| Originally written by Stéphanie Denton on May 14, 2012 11:47 AM
I wonder what they charge their clients and therfore what their margins are. Might get a spy to have a pop at being a client to get a quote! |
Instead, why not create a short document and let one of your employees handle the whole thing from start to finish?
That way, you'd get a good idea of quality etc., etc. |
Sorry Nanna, not sure if I've followed, actually get them to do a translation and pay for it? |
Yes! Nothing major, of course. A middle-of-the-road topic, not too easy, not too difficult and betrween 1,000 and 1,500 words. And give 'em a deadline for the day before yesterday 
It might well be worth the money and will also give you a very good idea of their range and the quality they deliver. Thsi way you also have a good gauge of whether working with them is something even worth considering.
Eggs and omelettes 
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تاريخ المشاركة: 23/جمادى الثانية/1433 03:22 م
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Stéphanie Denton عضو فاعل
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RE: Agency form
| Originally written by Nanna Mercer on May 14, 2012 3:14 PM
| Originally written by Stéphanie Denton on May 14, 2012 3:08 PM
| Originally written by Nanna Mercer on May 14, 2012 3:04 PM
| Originally written by Stéphanie Denton on May 14, 2012 11:47 AM
I wonder what they charge their clients and therfore what their margins are. Might get a spy to have a pop at being a client to get a quote! |
Instead, why not create a short document and let one of your employees handle the whole thing from start to finish?
That way, you'd get a good idea of quality etc., etc. |
Sorry Nanna, not sure if I've followed, actually get them to do a translation and pay for it? |
Yes! Nothing major, of course. A middle-of-the-road topic, not too easy, not too difficult and betrween 1,000 and 1,500 words. And give 'em a deadline for the day before yesterday 
It might well be worth the money and will also give you a very good idea of their range and the quality they deliver. Thsi way you also have a good gauge of whether working with them is something even worth considering.
Eggs and omelettes 
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I would, but I have no intention of working for them if they esteem Japanese to French translations to be worth between £0.03 and £0.065 per word, or that any translatiuon is worth those rates for that matter... adn I'm anti anyone who won't pay travel expenses for interpreters. It's just not fair. Obviously, these are within reason, but I often call upon London-based translators, and live a good 3-4 hours from London, so imagine if I didn't cover their travel costs?
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تاريخ المشاركة: 23/جمادى الثانية/1433 03:27 م
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Maxi Schwarz-Bastami
اللغات الأم: الإنجليزية, الألمانية تاريخ الانضمام: 29/رجب/1424 مكان التواجد: كندا |
RE: Ridiculous job offers
Stéphanie, I'm confused too. Here is what I thought was happening:
- There is an agency that wants you to pay for very low rates.
- You think it might be a good idea to pose as a customer, present some document for translation, and ask for a quote
- This way you would know what this agency charges clients, while asking translators to charge a given amount
Did I get this right?
Now Nanna is saying that you should get your own employees to translate this document. If my first premise is right, then I cannot see how getting your own employees to translate a document will allow you to know how much another agency would charge for that document. So I'm also confused.
Unless the question is: how much work is the document, and can you tell by having your own employees translate the document. Maybe what I set out isn't the story after all.
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تاريخ المشاركة: 23/جمادى الثانية/1433 03:30 م
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Nanna Mercer عضو فاعل
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RE: Ridiculous job offers
I wrote: Post #248988
"Instead, why not create a short document and let one of your employees handle the whole thing from start to finish?"
PS: Enough already! I am finished here for the moment. Have work to do 
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تاريخ المشاركة: 23/جمادى الثانية/1433 03:35 م
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Maxi Schwarz-Bastami
اللغات الأم: الإنجليزية, الألمانية تاريخ الانضمام: 29/رجب/1424 مكان التواجد: كندا |
RE: Ridiculous job offers
| Originally written by Nanna Mercer on May 14, 2012 3:30 PM
I wrote: Post #248988
"Instead, why not create a short document and let one of your employees handle the whole thing from start to finish?"
PS: Enough already! I am finished here for the moment. Have work to do 
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So "handle the whole thing" means that one of her employees creates the short document, and then that employee submits the document to the cheap agency and asks for a quote. Gotcha! Good idea.
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تاريخ المشاركة: 23/جمادى الثانية/1433 04:03 م
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Jacek K. عضو فاعل
اللغة الأم: البولندية تاريخ الانضمام: 01/ربيع الأول/1431 مكان التواجد: بولندا |
RE: Ridiculous job offers
Actually, Nanna suggested to go further and commission the Ridiculous agency in question to deliver a trial translation:
| Originally written by Nanna Mercer on May 14, 2012 3:14 PM
It might well be worth the money and will also give you a very good idea of their range and the quality they deliver. |
The only purpose of this, I understand, would be to keep this thread alive. I'm also for one thread being active!
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تاريخ المشاركة: 24/جمادى الثانية/1433 08:36 م
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Jacek K. عضو فاعل
اللغة الأم: البولندية تاريخ الانضمام: 01/ربيع الأول/1431 مكان التواجد: بولندا |
RE: Ridiculous job offers. Rates...
That's maybe because that job came from the Palestinian Territories where the average yearly income, as estimated by the World Bank in 2007, was $1230, i.e., just over $100 a month (http://www.teachmideast.org/geography/palestine). Could that be true?
If so, with $0.02/word and 60,000 words, one could earn the average annual income in just one month...
No wonder they got 3 bidders...
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